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It's apples and oranges because I had to add regular season games for KF other wise he is 0-1 vs P10 and hayden is 1-4. it was the only way to make any kind of comparision between the two. so which is a better coach, if you look at it that way? you can't it's apples and oranges.

ya he has a great record against the sec, I said P10 away games, vs hayden. im not picking a side I was making a point. the only common ground is pac10 teams away from home(since hayden enver had a P10 team here). if you went "bowls" only KF is 0-1 Hayden is 1-4. I said Im not picking sides but...

That would be about the only area you can compare the two. Iowa's "away" record vs P10 teams is pretty bad over the last 30+ years.

You cant really compare Hayden to Kirk, then it was the big 2 ONLY no one had but tOSU and UM in the B10 for years. His "air hayden" was a big deal the B10 was a ground game leauge. While Hayden doesnt currently have and top 3 recievers on the record books, he did when he retired. he still has...

gratz!!! This is now the 25th Kozan thread....you should ask JM if you get a prize

isnt he a head coach at one of the "ohio" schools? ohio bobcats think

athletics have grown do to the exposure and money they bring in to a school. What is the main reason UI isn't the size of ISU or UNI? More exposure,more students,more grants, more money. Do you honestly think UI would be anything like it is without athletics?

I'm pretty interested in hearing this as well.

Dr.Tom got a standing O the last 2 times he was back, I would expect no less. Not only is he one of the best BB coaches for Iowa in history, he's one of the best BB coaches in the history of CBB. btw+++on Streets death, I think that really effected him/our program for longer than some give...

When you start backing off and playing ball control in the 2nd qt, then go full ball control inthe 2nd half...how is that going to keep the crowd wound up?

How did your dog take it?

he just got picked

You mean like last year when it was time for PSU to make things "right"?... meh in the long run as more go to their own networks SECpn is hurting it self. B10 has the largest nation wide fan base, more and more will no even turn SECpn on. I don't at least for the pregame crap. game day blows

Woot D!ke Bobcats!!! I'm old school on mergers, if some one says so a DNH wolverine I say no... I had to edit the name, it wouldn't let me put in the name of the town...lol

this game is a under the radar complete trap game for us. on paper we win 10 out of 10, then again on paper we should have won in AZ too.

He's had a history of fumbling, even in games we won. that is why I think the hate, personally I do not understand it. then again the "hate" for him some times just feeds off it self. just like hype builds hype IE read most any preseaon write up on the hawks. Hate breeds hate.

lol.......lots of water. yes please do

This + with added this...McNutt almost never misses a pass, that his was a Rick6 makes it painful. DJK adjusts a lot to the ball, only when he misses do we see it posted....ya he missed, yes he seemed to slow etc(he adjusted early). Just like Mcnutt lost a ball that was in his hands. hey...

Kirk says he is OK, so that is good. let's worry about Ball St. and go on.

Could one of you who understand PED/HGH pm me? I do not, and would like a little info on it.