Will Woodbury have a Similar Impact as Zeller?
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GhostofBTT
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Oh, the whistful dreams of a Central Ohio graduate student...
wundergrape
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You're woefully mistaken, my friend. 3 stars all of them.
...and Ghost of the BTT...what are you talking about? I a) don't live in Central Ohio, and b) am not a grad student.
GhostofBTT
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Yeah, me neither *wink*
wundergrape
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I live in SW Ohio and work in school administration. *wink*
GhostofBTT
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C'mon Joe, I have to give you a little heat to keep up appearances.
wundergrape
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Super creepy. Either I know you, or you're a psycho. Either way, fun stuff!
GhostofBTT
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Who says it can't be both? And since when was Dayton not considered central Ohio? Figure that one out for me college boy...
wundergrape
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Since maps were invented, weirdo. Hasta la Vista, Captain Strange.
Uhmm, Worley and Reiner were both top 50 recruits. I'm going to start charging you for information.
Why are you so defensive? I tell you your expectations are a little high and you fly off the handle. Woosah....
WindsorHawk
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If those fouls are the ones currently putting McCabe on the bench then even the fouls will help. I agree with all of those saying McCabe and/or White and/or Basabe will be better with Woodbury. If his 5 fouls force the other teams' bigs to shoot 2 rather than get the 3 point play it will subtract at least 5 points from the other team's score.
wundergrape
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Source?
GhostofBTT
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Class of 2000:
Glen Worley #27
Jared Reiner #41
High School Basketball Top Recruits - StatSheet.com
Stop writing checks your butt can't cash Joe. It's a sucker's bet.
wundergrape
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First of all, the main point of my argument was that we have an excellent recruiting class coming in, which we do. Second, who in the hell is statsheet? Rivals had everyone in that class as three star recruits. Third, you're a loon.
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TheNebraskaHawk
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I think many of you are underestimating the potential that Adam will bring next year.
1. Rebounding - He will bring an inside presence that we do not have this year and at to him the other returning and incoming players and he will make a difference.
2. Basabe - Just allowing Basabe to play more of the four (I still think he will be used as a combo 4/5 by Fran) will make the team better.
3. White - How many of you would have said Aaron would have made the impact that he has before the season? Enough said...
4. Shot Blocking - Someone in this thread said that he would not be a big shot blocker...he will be a shot blocker and the shot blocking will make a difference next year. Just having a 7+ person in the lane will make a difference, not to mention adding in the other big men that will be able to compliment Adam.
5. Offense - Adam's offensive ability will surprise people that are doubters, he is a great passer and if teams double team him, we will have the players to make them pay and he has the skills to make the pass needed when needed.
I am not predicting a super star the first year, but I am confident that he will be a difference maker that will surprise many by how he adjusts to Big 10 play.
1. Rebounding - He will bring an inside presence that we do not have this year and at to him the other returning and incoming players and he will make a difference.
2. Basabe - Just allowing Basabe to play more of the four (I still think he will be used as a combo 4/5 by Fran) will make the team better.
3. White - How many of you would have said Aaron would have made the impact that he has before the season? Enough said...
4. Shot Blocking - Someone in this thread said that he would not be a big shot blocker...he will be a shot blocker and the shot blocking will make a difference next year. Just having a 7+ person in the lane will make a difference, not to mention adding in the other big men that will be able to compliment Adam.
5. Offense - Adam's offensive ability will surprise people that are doubters, he is a great passer and if teams double team him, we will have the players to make them pay and he has the skills to make the pass needed when needed.
I am not predicting a super star the first year, but I am confident that he will be a difference maker that will surprise many by how he adjusts to Big 10 play.
GhostofBTT
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Stop changing the argument college boy. A poster said they were top 50 recruits. You said "Source?". I provided source. Statsheet rankings were just a rehash of RSCI rankings, which is an aggregate of all of the published rankings.
I provided a source, now I am going to have to ask for yours, specifically the one that says Reiner and Worley were 3 star recruits.
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sportstalent
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Getting back to the original thread: Woodbury doesn't have to have that type of imapct that Zeller has provided.
Iowa's recruiting class could have the impact of the Moore/Johnson/Hummel class has had at Purdue. The class at Purdue on paper is better, but Purdue didn't really have any stars on the roster when they hit campus. The players bought into their roles, well Scott Martin didn't and he wound up at Notre Dame.
This class fills the glaring holes on Iowa's roster. Iowa's shooting is not going to suffer as I believe Marble/White will make significant strides and Oglesby will breakout from behind the arc. Oh yeah, that Mike kid can shoot a little bit.
If some of you want to temper your enthusiasm, so be it, but I have been saying for a while that Iowa will go to the NCAA tourney next year and will not back off of it until Iowa has major injuries like Marble/White/McCabe/Basabe all out at the same time for 15 games.
Areas Iowa struggles with the most:
1. Three point defense: Put a shot blocker in the middle and the guards can put more on the ball pressure or play tighter against shooters. Also, maybe Woodbury will be a player that understands how to hedge on a screen...just a thought.
2. Half court offense: Add in two true PG's instead of "four minute" Cartwright and that improves. The freshman will accept their roles and play within themselves, something Bryce did the last half of the season last year, but not at anytime this year...well, he did at Wisconsin.
3. Rebounding: An improved Gabe, throw in Woodbury a true center, Meyer a flat out hustler. Slide McCabe/Basabe to the PF position only and rotate White in there anywhere and it looks a lot better. That true big guy in middle has a presence and makes a difference.
In the end, Iowa is going to the NCAA tournament next season, not because of Woodbury, but because the 2010 class will lead them there. Iowa has to improve in a few key areas and Adam cannot do it by himself.
One thing that has to noted about Zeller and not to take anything away from him, is that Indiana has stayed healthy this season, aside from Maurice Creek. There have been some minor injuries, but not to Watford, Zeller and Hulls their best players.
The rest of the players understand their roles and accept them, hopefully, the Iowa players will do the same. If so, they have a chance to have a special season.
Iowa's recruiting class could have the impact of the Moore/Johnson/Hummel class has had at Purdue. The class at Purdue on paper is better, but Purdue didn't really have any stars on the roster when they hit campus. The players bought into their roles, well Scott Martin didn't and he wound up at Notre Dame.
This class fills the glaring holes on Iowa's roster. Iowa's shooting is not going to suffer as I believe Marble/White will make significant strides and Oglesby will breakout from behind the arc. Oh yeah, that Mike kid can shoot a little bit.
If some of you want to temper your enthusiasm, so be it, but I have been saying for a while that Iowa will go to the NCAA tourney next year and will not back off of it until Iowa has major injuries like Marble/White/McCabe/Basabe all out at the same time for 15 games.
Areas Iowa struggles with the most:
1. Three point defense: Put a shot blocker in the middle and the guards can put more on the ball pressure or play tighter against shooters. Also, maybe Woodbury will be a player that understands how to hedge on a screen...just a thought.
2. Half court offense: Add in two true PG's instead of "four minute" Cartwright and that improves. The freshman will accept their roles and play within themselves, something Bryce did the last half of the season last year, but not at anytime this year...well, he did at Wisconsin.
3. Rebounding: An improved Gabe, throw in Woodbury a true center, Meyer a flat out hustler. Slide McCabe/Basabe to the PF position only and rotate White in there anywhere and it looks a lot better. That true big guy in middle has a presence and makes a difference.
In the end, Iowa is going to the NCAA tournament next season, not because of Woodbury, but because the 2010 class will lead them there. Iowa has to improve in a few key areas and Adam cannot do it by himself.
One thing that has to noted about Zeller and not to take anything away from him, is that Indiana has stayed healthy this season, aside from Maurice Creek. There have been some minor injuries, but not to Watford, Zeller and Hulls their best players.
The rest of the players understand their roles and accept them, hopefully, the Iowa players will do the same. If so, they have a chance to have a special season.
