Nunge Garza Perfect Storm

[Hawk5656]

I feel bad for you, not me. It must be a sad life to be a Clown fan on a Hawk site, pretending to like Iowa.

As far as Moss goes, what don't you understand? If you are born after August you enter college 18 years old and turn 19 while you are a Fr. Moss birthday is in October. All kids with October birthdays are going to turn 19 in October as a Fr. Why is this difficult to understand, there isn't anything unique or special about this. You are acting like Moss is somehow older, or was held back, when in reality all he did was take a RS.

You acted like you didn't want to talk about this, and now you won't let it drop. You just sound like a dipshit bringing this stuff up, when we all know Moss took a RS, that is all. He isn't going to be 30 like your boy Kane was when he as a Sr. for the Clowns.

I'm not an Iowa state fan internet tough guy. I think Moss being 23 his senior year will be an advantage and for some reason you don't. I think lightning is right because you come off like you don't know much about basketball

 

[deanvogs]

I'm not an Iowa state fan internet tough guy. I think Moss being 23 his senior year will be an advantage and for some reason you don't. I think lightning is right because you come off like you don't know much about basketball

Speaking of not knowing anything about basketball. Here are some gems from you.

-Jordan Bohannon sucks and isn't a PG
-Iowa basketball has bottom 4 talent in the B1G
-Moss sucks
-Jordan Bohannon sucks really, really bad
-Iowa won't make the NIT tournament
-Iowa will finish bottom 1/2 in the B1G
-Jordan Bohannon won't be 1st team Fr. All B1G, so just stop sounding stupid by saying he will be

I'm sure more of the dumb ass stuff you say will come to me, or if others remember some other dumb ass stuff 56 says, just add it to the list.

 

[Hawk5656]

Speaking of not knowing anything about basketball. Here are some gems from you.

-Jordan Bohannon sucks and isn't a PG
-Iowa basketball has bottom 4 talent in the B1G
-Moss sucks
-Jordan Bohannon sucks really, really bad
-Iowa won't make the NIT tournament
-Iowa will finish bottom 1/2 in the B1G
-Jordan Bohannon won't be 1st team Fr. All B1G, so just stop sounding stupid by saying he will be

I'm sure more of the dumb ass stuff you say will come to me, or if others remember some other dumb ass stuff 56 says, just add it to the list.

I still stand by the statement that we'll never make the second weekend with Jordan at PG. He's too limited offensively and is always going to be a liability defensively. I don't think Moss sucks but looking back he had a pretty poor year last year. I've been wrong on a few things and right on a few things that nobody agreed with, you just prove you don't know anything by always saying how good everyone will be

 

[deanvogs]

I still stand by the statement that we'll never make the second weekend with Jordan at PG. He's too limited offensively and is always going to be a liability defensively. I don't think Moss sucks but looking back he had a pretty poor year last year. I've been wrong on a few things and right on a few things that nobody agreed with, you just prove you don't know anything by always saying how good everyone will be

Dude you are pathetic. Iowa didn't make the second weekend with Mike at PG, does that make it his fault? You spent all last year telling us how horrible Jordan was, you don't get off the hook by trying to pretend that it is all Jordan's fault if Iowa doesn't advance to the sweet 16.

I never claimed before the season Jordan would be some great player, or that Williams was some stud. I said I was very worried about our PG situation. I'm just not an idiot like you or others who declare absolutes without ever seeing them play one minute of basketball for Iowa (Jordan and Moss). You claimed Moss was awful because he took a RS, then you said he was good during the season, now you are saying he had a bad season? We obviously know all the crap you spewed about Jordan as well.

 

[Hawk5656]

Dude you are pathetic. Iowa didn't make the second weekend with Mike at PG, does that make it his fault? You spent all last year telling us how horrible Jordan was, you don't get off the hook by trying to pretend that it is all Jordan's fault if Iowa doesn't advance to the sweet 16.

I never claimed before the season Jordan would be some great player, or that Williams was some stud. I said I was very worried about our PG situation. I'm just not an idiot like you or others who declare absolutes without ever seeing them play one minute of basketball for Iowa (Jordan and Moss). You claimed Moss was awful because he took a RS, then you said he was good during the season, now you are saying he had a bad season? We obviously know all the crap you spewed about Jordan as well.

Moss did have a bad year

 

[deanvogs]

Moss did have a bad year

What do you expect out of Fr? I mean honestly, do you think all Fr. come in and put up 11 and 5 like Jordan and are Fr. All B1G players?

People know you are a Clone fan from the stuff you say, not from anything I say.

 

[Hawk5656]

What do you expect out of Fr? I mean honestly, do you think all Fr. come in and put up 11 and 5 like Jordan and are Fr. All B1G players?

People know you are a Clone fan from the stuff you say, not from anything I say.

I can't help but laugh every time I am right and you are wrong you just end up calling me a cyclone fan because you have nothing else to say

 

[deanvogs]

I can't help but laugh every time I am right and you are wrong you just end up calling me a cyclone fan because you have nothing else to say

You are really bad at this. Clown fans talk about Moss age. Clown fans say he was bad last year. If you didn't post the exact same things on Clonwtownfantasies, it might have taken more than 4.2 posts before everyone knew you were Cytwins.

Moss is going to be 21 years old before the season starts. I have no clue why Hawkeye fans expect him to be good

Moss was bad last year

Like I said if you would like to just post as a Clone fan, I would be more than respectful to you. As it is you are just running a troll, so don't expect me to do anything than I have always done......call you out on it.

As far as Moss having a bad year, then you must think that 80%+ of Fr. have bad Fr. years. Most people who understand Basketball understand that Fr. usually only do so much and struggle with consistency. Marble struggled mightily as a Fr., Jok struggled as a Fr. and So.

 

[PCHawk]

You are really bad at this. Clown fans talk about Moss age. Clown fans say he was bad last year. If you didn't post the exact same things on Clonwtownfantasies, it might have taken more than 4.2 posts before everyone knew you were Cytwins.





Like I said if you would like to just post as a Clone fan, I would be more than respectful to you. As it is you are just running a troll, so don't expect me to do anything than I have always done......call you out on it.

As far as Moss having a bad year, then you must think that 80%+ of Fr. have bad Fr. years. Most people who understand Basketball understand that Fr. usually only do so much and struggle with consistency. Marble struggled mightily as a Fr., Jok struggled as a Fr. and So.

Freshmen probably struggle more so when they play the same position as the star player on the team. It makes it more likely you will play passive and defer.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

I knew more about BB than you did last year. You predicted that Iowa was gonna finish 9th or worse in the B1G. I said they were going to be better than that. Who was right?

You also said that Garza was a POS and didn't deserve to get a D1 scholarship, claiming he was pigeon toed like you are some Dr.???

I don't call you out lightning on most of the stuff you say. I called you out on those two. You are also no fun to deal with for the most part, and many have had difficulties with you, because you get all pissed off when some don't agree with you. You think say that you coached, so you automatically know more than everyone on here. Yet I pointed out two very specific times in which we disagreed and one I was correct and you were wrong about already (B1G finish) and the other you will be (Garza).

Can you point out two times that we disagreed and you turned out to be correct? No you can't, because it hasn't happened. So before you go saying someone doesn't have basketball knowledge, you have better be right when disagreeing with them.

As far as Baer goes, I said I respectfully disagree. I get that you think he is more of a 4 or more a tweener. I wasn't calling you out, and specifically said I wasn't. I was just disagreeing with you. The problem is you can't handle people disagreeing with you, and you attack other as much or more than I do.

I coach kids. I bet you I would coach him under the table.

 

[InGoodCo]

Moss as a RS freshman was better than Marble or Jok as Frosh- the RS paid off. I thought Moss had an outstanding season for a freshman considering he played the same position as the B1G's leading scorer.

 

[Hawk5656]

You are really bad at this. Clown fans talk about Moss age. Clown fans say he was bad last year. If you didn't post the exact same things on Clonwtownfantasies, it might have taken more than 4.2 posts before everyone knew you were Cytwins.





Like I said if you would like to just post as a Clone fan, I would be more than respectful to you. As it is you are just running a troll, so don't expect me to do anything than I have always done......call you out on it.

As far as Moss having a bad year, then you must think that 80%+ of Fr. have bad Fr. years. Most people who understand Basketball understand that Fr. usually only do so much and struggle with consistency. Marble struggled mightily as a Fr., Jok struggled as a Fr. and So.

Moss being older is a positive not a negative that's why I don't get why you are attacking me for this. I just searched for this Cytwins poster on here and couldn't find anything but anyone posting on here with "Cy" in their name is going to be an cyclone fan so don't compare me to them

 

[deanvogs]

Moss as a RS freshman was better than Marble or Jok as Frosh- the RS paid off. I thought Moss had an outstanding season for a freshman considering he played the same position as the B1G's leading scorer.

You gotta be a complete tool or a Clone fan to say Moss was bad last year as a Fr. Sounds like something I would say about Donovan Jackson because I'm a Hawk fan and he only averaged 7 PPG was awful defensively. Yet I'd bet there isn't a Clone fan on the planet that would say Jackson was bad last year.

 

[PCHawk]

It sure is sounding like both these freshmen are the real deal. It also sounds like Nunge can play the 3. I'm hearing he handles the ball really well.

 

[Hawk5656]

Freshmen probably struggle more so when they play the same position as the star player on the team. It makes it more likely you will play passive and defer.

The good thing about Moss is he showed what he could do when he was on and for that I think he has a lot of upside. It's not unusual to be inconsistent as a freshman and as long as he works at it I think that will improve. I still am nervous about him this year though because he has some huge shoes to fill

 

[PCHawk]

It sure is sounding like both these freshmen are the real deal. It also sounds like Nunge can play the 3. I'm hearing he handles the ball really well.

Sorry for posting this in the wrong thread but I didn't want to search for one that was about Nunge and Garza.

 

[SteveGarvey1]

Moss did have a bad year

Moss had good games and bad games. Like others have said, he was inconsistent in large part because he was a freshman.

 

[Hawk5656]

Sorry for posting this in the wrong thread but I didn't want to search for one that was about Nunge and Garza.

I've been high on Garza since day one but I've been more impressed with what I've seen out of Nunge in the PTL. I like the fact that he's putting up a lot of shots and constantly staying aggressive offensively, that's the type of mindset we need to recruit more of in my opinion

 

[PCHawk]

The good thing about Moss is he showed what he could do when he was on and for that I think he has a lot of upside. It's not unusual to be inconsistent as a freshman and as long as he works at it I think that will improve. I still am nervous about him this year though because he has some huge shoes to fill

If he can average 10 points per game and defend good enough to allow 4 points less than Jok did, the rest of the team will only have to make up 6 points per game to put us at where we were last year.

The really good news is Jok was playing his worst ball at the end of the year and the team was playing it's best. We played like a tournament team the last half of the Big 10 schedule while Jok was averaging way less than 20 per game.

 

[Hawk5656]

If he can average 10 points per game and defend good enough to allow 4 points less than Jok did, the rest of the team will only have to make up 6 points per game to put us at where we were last year.

The really good news is Jok was playing his worst ball at the end of the year and the team was playing it's best. We played like a tournament team the last half of the Big 10 schedule while Jok was averaging way less than 20 per game.

Jok still scored a lot at the end of the year. He averaged over 20 ppg in the NIT and had that 35 point game against Indiana