Compare the impact of Woodbury/Gesell to Horner/Brunner as freshmen.

We all know what we got from Horner and Brunner as freshmen and how they impacted our team. What kind of impact do you think Woodbury and Gesell will have next year on the team in comparison to Bru and Jeff?

Gesell + Woodbury > Horner + Brunner. These 2 will allow others to play positions they are more suited for, thus, their overall impact will be greater.
 
i could have swore in BT play Cartwright had a avg of 7-8 assist per game in leading the BT in assists, AND the top ten all time in block shots is mind boggling or else you are forgetting Acie Earle who avg 4.5 bpg as a sophamore, as a matter of fact the avg's went down in his jr and sr years,
and yesterday Woodbury was the only one to get a dbl dbl with 11 points on 5-6 shooting and 1-4 on ft attempts and 11 rebounds, this can be found in the Gazzette. he also had 2 blks, and went to the floor 4 time going for loose balls. when was the last time you saw a 7' diving on the floor for loose balls, i sure don't remember one
so if some can help i would like to see his avg in BT play on Cartwright as i know he avg'd 5.9 on the season,
Marble avg'd 3.6 apg playing out of position, even cartwright ended up avg' 4.8 apg this year. so why is it so hard for the expectation of Gesell getting 5 apg is unrealistic,
he is going to be the starter and have the ball in his hands dishing it out, and this team will be loaded with options
Marble and White the top 2, Basabe, McCabe and Oglesby the next 3 and Woodbury and Olaseni being the targets in the middle, and with his ability to score the dbl teams will be few, although i saw the south team try to dbl team him numerous times, thats a lot of respect by the opposing coach

I really have no idea what this is post is trying to say, but let me reiterate here.....

1. If Mike Gesell averages 5 assists per game, which would give him about 170 assists for the season, then he will have one of the Top 10 assist seasons in Hawkeye history. No way a freshman comes in and puts up a Top 10 all time season. By the way, Bryce Cartwright's best season (last year) he averaged 5.9 assists per game. However, he was a junior, not a freshman and had significant starting experience already as a transfer. With the exception of Andre Wooldridge, who quite frankly is the best point guard in the last 30 years at Iowa, no Iowa player has had a Top 10 all time assist season until at least their junior year.

2. If Adam Woodbury avg's 2 blocks per game, which would give him about 70 blocks, then he will have one of the Top 10 block seasons in Hawkeye history. Once again, no way a freshman comes in and puts up a Top 10 all time season.

I just think people are way overboard on their expectations for the type of seasons these two are going to have. Given the talent that returns on top of the fact that there are 3 other incoming freshmen that are pretty decent and have all 3 played against equal or better competition in Michigan, Indianapolis and Atlanta, there are going to be a lot of people to divide up a finite amount of minutes to. I don't see any way that either of them gets more than 22 or so minutes per game.
 
Gesell + Woodbury > Horner + Brunner. These 2 will allow others to play positions they are more suited for, thus, their overall impact will be greater.

this sums it up best, rather than trying to compare the individual players. because as individuals each one brings something different to the game
 
don't try to critizes if you are going to get the players name wrong, misspelling words is something that cannot be helped, but misspelling a players name there is no excuse.

So let me get this straight:

You cant misspell a players name but it is ok for you to misspell common, everyday words.

For example, look at the 4th word in your post. Its ok to criticize someone, yet butcher the spelling of criticize?
 
people need to come up with something that helps with basic spelling. man the english language has been around for a while and so has the printing press. you would think by now that someone i dont know named webster might write all these common words down and print copies of it for people to use.

or use spell check on word and then type it.
 
don't try to critizes if you are going to get the players name wrong, misspelling words is something that cannot be helped, but misspelling a players name there is no excuse.

What is this...I don't even.

Do you work for Excedrin? Are you a troll hired by asprin companies to give people headaches? That is the only possible explaination for your behavior.
 
I really have no idea what this is post is trying to say, but let me reiterate here.....

1. If Mike Gesell averages 5 assists per game, which would give him about 170 assists for the season, then he will have one of the Top 10 assist seasons in Hawkeye history. No way a freshman comes in and puts up a Top 10 all time season. By the way, Bryce Cartwright's best season (last year) he averaged 5.9 assists per game. However, he was a junior, not a freshman and had significant starting experience already as a transfer. With the exception of Andre Wooldridge, who quite frankly is the best point guard in the last 30 years at Iowa, no Iowa player has had a Top 10 all time assist season until at least their junior year.

2. If Adam Woodbury avg's 2 blocks per game, which would give him about 70 blocks, then he will have one of the Top 10 block seasons in Hawkeye history. Once again, no way a freshman comes in and puts up a Top 10 all time season.

I just think people are way overboard on their expectations for the type of seasons these two are going to have. Given the talent that returns on top of the fact that there are 3 other incoming freshmen that are pretty decent and have all 3 played against equal or better competition in Michigan, Indianapolis and Atlanta, there are going to be a lot of people to divide up a finite amount of minutes to. I don't see any way that either of them gets more than 22 or so minutes per game.

by the stats that were posted Acie Earle avg'd 3.5 bpg as a fr, just because few do it. is not a reason to dismiss the possibility of another player being capable of doing something.
even Cully Payne came in and avg'd 3.8 apg as a freshmen in a hold the ball for 30 secounds then shoot.
for Gesell to come in as freshmen and avg 5 apg is not impossible, and you confuse all time stats with season stats. and it appears you refuse to look at this team scoring 75+ ppg. to score this many points you have to shoot more.
shooting more leads to more opportunity to get assists. duh now is it that hard to understand the reasons why people speculate the kid avg's to be 5 a game.
this also applies to scoring, score 50 ppg equals low scoring avg's by players.
score 75+ = higher scoring by those same players
 
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by the stats that were posted Acie Earle avg'd 3.5 bpg as a fr, just because few do it. is not a reason to dismiss the possibility of another player being capable of doing something.
even Cully Payne came in and avg'd 3.8 apg as a freshmen in a hold the ball for 30 secounds then shoot.
for Gesell to come in as freshmen and avg 5 apg is not impossible, and you confuse all time stats with season stats. and it appears you refuse to look at this team scoring 75+ ppg. to score this many points you have to shoot more.
shooting more leads to more opportunity to get assists. duh now is it that hard to understand the reasons why people speculate the kid avg's to be 5 a game.
this also applies to scoring, score 50 ppg equals low scoring avg's by players.
score 75+ = higher scoring by those same players

Who the heck is Acie Earle? Acie Earle never averaged 3.5 blocks per game.

don't try to critizes if you are going to get the players name wrong, misspelling words is something that cannot be helped, but misspelling a players name there is no excuse.
 
people need to come up with something that helps with basic spelling. man the english language has been around for a while and so has the printing press. you would think by now that someone i dont know named webster might write all these common words down and print copies of it for people to use.

or use spell check on word and then type it.

i cannot help with my spelling 1ST i do not have spell check, 2nd i have to use just one hand to type, 3rd the stroke that i had not only inhibits the use of my other hand has impeded my spelling, and if you really need to know i take 4 different pills to control my emotions. during my timeout for lack of a better word my Dr. changed the type and dosage of these meds, so if it makes you feel better. keep attacking and critize every post i make
it really must be nice to be superior than others
 
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people need to come up with something that helps with basic spelling. man the english language has been around for a while and so has the printing press. you would think by now that someone i dont know named webster might write all these common words down and print copies of it for people to use.or use spell check on word and then type it.
i cannot help with my spelling 1ST i do not have spell check, 2nd i have to use just one hand to type, 3rd the stroke that i had not only inhibits the use of my other hand has impeded my spelling, and if you really need to know i take 4 different pills to control my emotions. during my timeout for lack of a better word my Dr. changed the type and dosage of these meds, so if it makes you feel better. keep attacking and critize every post i makeit really must be nice to be superior than others

pot meet kettle. i dont really care what your opinion is but you attack more than anyone and i for one was sick of it. you spelled acie earl's name wrong btw...i believe you got mad at people for messing up names. i have done it too but then when you screw up it just makes it worse so i stopped doing it.

the problem isnt your predictions or your opinion. it is the fact that when you are wrong you wont admit it. i mean really i will fight for my opinion too but if you are wrong live with it.
 
i cannot help with my spelling 1ST i do not have spell check, 2nd i have to use just one hand to type, 3rd the stroke that i had not only inhibits the use of my other hand has impeded my spelling, and if you really need to know i take 4 different pills to control my emotions. during my timeout for lack of a better word my Dr. changed the type and dosage of these meds, so if it makes you feel better. keep attacking and critize every post i make
it really must be nice to be superior than others

You are nothing but aggressive and insulting to others, and then you double back and cry when others become aggressive towards you.

None of your lame excuses show demonstrate an inability to spell. I had to type one armed for 6 months after I shattered my elbow and tore up ligaments after being hit by a car. I could still spell. I could only use my left hand (I'm a righty), and it took FOREVER after I had the use of my right arm to build up the strength to do something like hold me arm up to type. So I know what you're going through, and you are absolutely in the wrong. And I have no idea what your emotional state would have to do with your spelling ability.

I don't mean to pick on you because I know how trying physical therapy is after a devistating injury, but you are the one who are the one who attacked someone else by claiming it is never acceptable to misspell a player's name. You can't paint a giant bulls eye on your back and then cry when the arrows start screaming in.

I sincerely wish you the best in your recovery. I'll be praying for you.
 
how can a prediction or opinion be wrong, either its come to be or it doesn't, no right or wrong to it, and a opinion is just that, and i do have the right to defend my opinion. as 99% of the time it is attacked or ripped apart.
 
You are nothing but aggressive and insulting to others, and then you double back and cry when others become aggressive towards you.

None of your lame excuses show demonstrate an inability to spell. I had to type one armed for 6 months after I shattered my elbow and tore up ligaments after being hit by a car. I could still spell. I could only use my left hand (I'm a righty), and it took FOREVER after I had the use of my right arm to build up the strength to do something like hold me arm up to type. So I know what you're going through, and you are absolutely in the wrong. And I have no idea what your emotional state would have to do with your spelling ability.

I don't mean to pick on you because I know how trying physical therapy is after a devistating injury, but you are the one who are the one who attacked someone else by claiming it is never acceptable to misspell a player's name. You can't paint a giant bulls eye on your back and then cry when the arrows start screaming in.

I sincerely wish you the best in your recovery. I'll be praying for you.

unforetunately there is no recovery for me with this stroke. it is permanent. so is the damage done to the mental and emotional state
and for some post it takes me up to 10 minutes to put together
 
i cannot help with my spelling 1ST i do not have spell check, 2nd i have to use just one hand to type, 3rd the stroke that i had not only inhibits the use of my other hand has impeded my spelling, and if you really need to know i take 4 different pills to control my emotions. during my timeout for lack of a better word my Dr. changed the type and dosage of these meds, so if it makes you feel better. keep attacking and critize every post i make
it really must be nice to be superior than others

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Woodbury can score if he's near the hoop, I like his chances to average 7. He has a very mature offensive game in all facets for an incoming freshman.
 
did not realize stating facts were a excuse, but keep attacking and ridiculing as it appears to make you feel far superior

Excuse is defined as:

an explanation offered as a reason for being excused; a plea offered in extenuation of a fault or for release from an obligation, promise

True statements that are used to justify why one acts (or does not act) in a certain way are excuses. The same can be true of false statements.

And I'm not ridiculing you. I'm exhorting you.
 

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