Barta confirmed - NO CBI
- Thread starter storminspank
- Start date
We went big time and hit them up with a Benjamin
DwayneTwill
Well-Known Member
Agreed.
Herkyalert
Banned
So more game experience, with a postseason feel is nothing to gain?
Herkyalert
Banned
Hecne why Barta caters to the football program. He'd never turn down a trip to Detroit in December.
1hawkeye1
Well-Known Member
Playing in empty arenas (excepting CHA) with HDNet coverage is not "postseason feel."
We'd be playing subpar competition. If we win, so what? If we lose, it would set our program back.
Not to mention, it would be used against us in recruiting.
No, nothing to gain for us in CBI.
HawkeyeDug
Well-Known Member
How is being IN the CBI more embarrassing than not being good enough to even make it?
More game experience with a tournament feel? Last year's 8 opening games were played before sparse crowds. The best was 4000 fans. Not too much tournament feel to it. What is one or two more games when most players have been playing basketball since they were 5. I would guess the average fan couldn't care less.
The Creighton coach said he would never play in it again. I agree totally with hawkeyewx
The Creighton coach said he would never play in it again. I agree totally with hawkeyewx
Herkyalert
Banned
How would losses set the program back? We are talking game experience here, something all the underclassmen would benifit from. You have no clue who they'd be playing to begin with. VCU played in the CBI and won it and look at them now. Chances are Iowa would play a decent team. They wouldn't be playing Northern Illinois again or someone like that.
Not playing in anything is negative. I hardly think that coaches would use the CBI angle when it comes to recruiting.
Herkyalert
Banned
It's a chance to keep your season going. Hence a tournament feel Win, you keep playing. Lose, you go home. Is the Great Alaskan Shootout and Maui Classic pointless because the crowds aren't there
I promise you the players want to keep playing. Gatens deserves to play longer, and all the underclassment will benefit from the extra min. Say Iowa runs the table and wins it? Do you think nothing would have been gained experience-wise? It's competition. That's what makes players better.
Herkyalert
Banned
Furthermore, Barta had a hand in creating this mess when he didn't do his homework on Lick. Brad Stevens did the recruiting at Butler and Barta didn't look into that. He only looked at Butler's record when he was the head coach.
Hence,Lick was hired and Iowa basketball fell to depths most of us had never seen mainly because of talent or lack there of.
So yeah, I think a CBI bid would be a step in the right direction at this point to help fix a once broken product.
Hence,Lick was hired and Iowa basketball fell to depths most of us had never seen mainly because of talent or lack there of.
So yeah, I think a CBI bid would be a step in the right direction at this point to help fix a once broken product.
Igothawked
Well-Known Member
I think McDermott said that because of the final best of 3 series in the title game. They won the first game and he felt like they should have then been the champs. However they then lost the next two.
I would prefer that we didn't have to stoop to the CBI but in actuality I think the extra games and post season atmosphere-ish games would be of benefit for this team. The two teams last year playing for the title of the CBI were Creighton and Oregon. Both have drastically improved since last year. Both were young teams last year.
It can certainly be argued that it would not make financial sense to play in these games, but from a strict basketball future perspective I think it would make sense to play.
olivecourt
Well-Known Member
I'd like for us to play in the CBI if we don't make the NIT.
BUT, I can't see any way the players or coaches could get mad if they aren't allowed to go to the CBI. They did a lot of good things this year, but they had every opportunity to play their way into a position where they would be a lock for the NIT, and they didn't. Let's face it, it's not that high of a bar, and had they taken care of beating Nebraska at home or Penn State on the road they would have easily crossed it. If they are ****** that their season is over, that's where the anger should be directed.
And you can't compare the CBI to lower-tier bowls, count percentages of teams in post-season play, etc., because Division I basketball is basically what you'd get if you combined FBS and FCS in football and then added a ton of teams that don't even have football programs. They are just totally different beasts.
BUT, I can't see any way the players or coaches could get mad if they aren't allowed to go to the CBI. They did a lot of good things this year, but they had every opportunity to play their way into a position where they would be a lock for the NIT, and they didn't. Let's face it, it's not that high of a bar, and had they taken care of beating Nebraska at home or Penn State on the road they would have easily crossed it. If they are ****** that their season is over, that's where the anger should be directed.
And you can't compare the CBI to lower-tier bowls, count percentages of teams in post-season play, etc., because Division I basketball is basically what you'd get if you combined FBS and FCS in football and then added a ton of teams that don't even have football programs. They are just totally different beasts.
ChosenChildren
Well-Known Member
Although I'm not a big Barta fan, i'm comfortable with this decision. If we get into the NIT, great. If not, it was a tremendous season of improvement (17 Wins (+6) and 9 wins against Big Ten teams (+5), not to mention an overall winning record.
Well done, Hawks.
P.S. I predicted 17-14 at the beginning of the year. Surprised we got there, but grateful for the effort of the players. Gatens was terrific all year!
Well done, Hawks.
P.S. I predicted 17-14 at the beginning of the year. Surprised we got there, but grateful for the effort of the players. Gatens was terrific all year!
hawkIhoops
Well-Known Member
Has to be about TV revenue or licensing rights. Why else would the big ten care about teams playing in postseason tournaments? Really strange that the CBI has been talked about for over a month and this only comes out today.
If we don't get into the NIT, it will be a shame. We don't have 20 wins like other NIT teams, but we have some quality wins and don't play in a pud conference like Drexel and some of these others that feast on crap teams and have one top 75 team in their conference (maybe).
If we don't get into the NIT, it will be a shame. We don't have 20 wins like other NIT teams, but we have some quality wins and don't play in a pud conference like Drexel and some of these others that feast on crap teams and have one top 75 team in their conference (maybe).
StatelineHawk
Well-Known Member
I agree with NIT or nothing.
bighawkeyedaddy
Well-Known Member
I am wondering if Fran's contract would give him a bonus for any type of postseason appearance?
SwirlinLingerie
Well-Known Member
Didn't Ghost make some great points about not playing in the CBI last week?
Where is he?
Where is he?
