Adam
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I'm sure it's quite informative. However I'm not sure it's proper to recommend studies that you yourself haven't taken.
Wirfs suspended one game
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I'm sure it's quite informative. However I'm not sure it's proper to recommend studies that you yourself haven't taken.
I personally don't care about the public intox. He wasn't putting anybody but himself in danger. However, he's probably suspended because he violated team rules. I'm not judging the kid at all, but if you think the coaches were going to do nothing about it I think you're crazy.
EstronHawkKing
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I can't believe he got just a one game suspension, thought for sure it would be 2-3.
EstronHawkKing
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Adam
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I certainly didn't say "do nothing" but if the coach feels that drinking and driving is worse than drinking and stumbling then maybe the punishment given for Rieff was too much. From the evidence we have it would be logical to conclude that Kirk puts the 2 offenses on a fairly even plane. I just find that to be peculiar.
P.S. not getting suspended from game play does not directly infer that you went "unpunished". There are other things that could be done to punish someone.
HawkGold
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Fry will love this. I've taught it before. Not there though not there.
Adam
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Lol I thought it would be more because Rieff got a 1 game. Even though that is what I thought would happen, that is not necessarily what I thought was fair or needed.
EstronHawkKing
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Rieff wasn't driving a vehicle, Wirf's was.
homes
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While Wirf's conduct was more "severe" than Reiff's, driving any vehicle intoxicated by any standard is worse than mistaking a police cruiser for an Uber, if the code of conduct does not differentiate, then the punishments have to be the same, therein lies the "consistency" of the punishment.
Wirf was by all accounts driving a scooter. I can't see doing much damage to others on a scooter. Add to that, rumor has it that he did not even blow beyond the legal limit, the fact that he admitted that he was drinking and underage got him an OWI.....on a scooter. Good for Ferentz who displayed some commonsense.
99topdawg
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Just came back to correct it. Didn't realize everyone would follow!
homes
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I thought I read he blew over .1. No matter. While I agree a scooter isn't as bad as a car going at speed, he did have people on the back - bad judgment.
GesterHawk
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Ok here is my take:
Reiff is in his 5th year with the program. Any transgression gets the 'Oh come on, you have been here forever and know how things work' added punishment bonus.
TW is starting his second year on campus. He gets the 'Learning curve/don't do it again' bonus.
Bonus is applied in opposite directions here.
Had a 5th year senior pulled the drunken clownmobile stunt, I am guessing he gets the 'Oh come on' bonus and lands a 2 or 3 game suspension.
Also, not throwing shade at Reiff, no inside info, and not starting rumors - but maybe this is strike 2 and strike 1 was not a legal affair.
We don't know, we won't know, we have no right to know.
Reiff is in his 5th year with the program. Any transgression gets the 'Oh come on, you have been here forever and know how things work' added punishment bonus.
TW is starting his second year on campus. He gets the 'Learning curve/don't do it again' bonus.
Bonus is applied in opposite directions here.
Had a 5th year senior pulled the drunken clownmobile stunt, I am guessing he gets the 'Oh come on' bonus and lands a 2 or 3 game suspension.
Also, not throwing shade at Reiff, no inside info, and not starting rumors - but maybe this is strike 2 and strike 1 was not a legal affair.
We don't know, we won't know, we have no right to know.
ArvadaHawk
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this is the 21st century. scooter or 4 wheeled vehicle, drunk driving needs a special carve out. and for those who don't see a scooter being as dangerous as a car or being able to cause the same kind of damage as a car: consider if wirfs had driven through a red light on his scooter and another vehicle, say a car or larger, swerved to avoid hitting him, lost control and smacked into a crowd of people. drunk driving deserves a special consideration/rule. a season suspension may not be too harsh. everyone knows by now you shouldn't drink and drive.
Adam
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Ya...that's what I said.
Adam
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I hope I don't see you on here ever complaining about recruiting then, because if we did what you think all we would be recruiting are walk ons.
Kids already don't come here because we are a strict hard working program and we don't let kids get away with non sense. I can only imagine the most talented in the country would be knocking down our door knowing that 1 mistake and you can flush a season.
Wow lighten up Francis. A lot of ifs' in there, he was not drunk and he was on a scooter. Didn't happen. What if a drunk alien on a hoverboard had plowed through a red light and badly dented your car resulting in a substantial loss of resale value to your car. It could happen. Ferentz did the right thing.
ArvadaHawk
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should i send some family members of some who have been killed because of a drunk driver?
Edit: The the NCAA would need to make it a universal punishment, regardless of what that punishment is. But it needs to be much tougher than a 1 game suspension. that's like missing a game because of a sprained ankle and having to miss a game.
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ArvadaHawk
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again, go read some stories about some who have been killed because of a drunk driver. do you think my statement would be an over reaction to them?
Yes, yes I do. I think extrapolating that a semi-sober 320 pound scooter rider going on a drunk driving spree and killing someone is bordering on the hysterical.
