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[HawkGold]

They didn't exist because they were assembled on site. We didn't have a stockpile available but had massive resources designated for their production. If by "some time" you mean a few weeks then yes, we are in agreement.

Likely not enough time to do it again before winter which might have led to an invasion by the US. However, there is plenty of evidence that Japan was ready to surrender due to the Soviet invasion. No Japanese leader would want to face tribunal under the Soviets.

 

[Ree4]

Only the Little Boy was shipped aboard the Indianapolis. All the pieces for the Fat Man arrived by C-54 transport. So only one would have had to be replaced if the Indianapolis was sunk.

 

[Ree4]

Likely not enough time to do it again before winter which might have led to an invasion by the US. However, there is plenty of evidence that Japan was ready to surrender due to the Soviet invasion. No Japanese leader would want to face tribunal under the Soviets.

Sorry I edited my post to include more detail after you quoted it

The transport of the third bomb was delayed by General Marshall and General Grove and would have been available for deployment ~ August 21st.

Plenty of time before winter

 

[HawkGold]

Sorry I edited my post to include more detail after you quoted it

Plenty of time before winter

I personally hold to the view that two weren't necessary. Maybe not even one. Not sure though. I did a recorded interview with the Indy survivor. Incredible story.

 

[Ree4]

I personally hold to the view that two weren't necessary. Maybe not even one. Not sure though. I did a recorded interview with the Indy survivor. Incredible story.

That's probably a good view to have, especially with hindsight.

 

[HawkGold]

That's probably a good view to have, especially with hindsight.

I'm pretty good at hindsight. I do find history fascinating. Some much beneath the surface.

 

[Ree4]

I'm pretty good at hindsight. I do find history fascinating. Some much beneath the surface.

I've always been interested in the science behind nuclear energy/weapons - atomic fission/fusion and have done a ton of research on my own time. Nuclear physics is both awesome and terrifying especially when controlled by humans. I've always been interested in the history of their use and development especially the Manhattan Project - kind of a morbid curiosity I guess.

How did we get on this topic anyway hahah

 

[Northside Hawk]

Except that the Indy wouldnt have been running unescorted in those waters on a straight line. Friend of mine is a survivor one of 13. Dude still drives. If what you propose had hsppened my dad would have been in the invasion and maybe that would be one less to argue with Fryowa.

Probably would have just had another ship bring Little Boy #2 and Fat Man #2

If my history is correct, the Indianapolis had no escort ships. My understanding is that the mission was so top secret that it was 48 hours before the ship was even reported missing. However, If your survivor friend has told you otherwise I will take his first hand account as the truth.

We had no more atomic bombs for immediate use. If historians report that another would have been ready for use on August 21st thats probably accurate. But Truman and top government and millitary officials, after several meetings, believed that the second bomb would have a larger psychological impact than the first one and they deduced that Japan would be too shocked to call our bluff. They were right. When we told them we might have more they were in no mood to find out if we were telling the truth.

The first Jaws movie has a great scene where Brody, Quint, and Hooper are on Quints vessel and sharing after dinner drinks/stories. Hooper and Quint soon begin a game of one upmanship that goes about six or eight rounds. Finally Quint announces that he survived the Indianapolis. The look in Hooper's eyes is priceless. Not only does he know he can't possibly top that, but as a lifelong marine biologist he is in awe just to be in the presence of an Indianapolis survivor. Quint tells the story in ever more apocalyptic tones and it makes for a great moment in a great movie.

 

[HawkGold]

If my history is correct, the Indianapolis had no escort ships. My understanding is that the mission was so top secret that it was 48 hours before the ship was even reported missing. However, If your survivor friend has told you otherwise I will take his first hand account as the truth.

We had no more atomic bombs for immediate use. If historians report that another would have been ready for use on August 21st thats probably accurate. But Truman and top government and millitary officials, after several meetings, believed that the second bomb would have a larger psychological impact than the first one and they deduced that Japan would be too shocked to call our bluff. They were right. When we told them we might have more they were in no mood to find out if we were telling the truth.

The first Jaws movie has a great scene where Brody, Quint, and Hooper are on Quints vessel and sharing after dinner drinks/stories. Hooper and Quint soon begin a game of one upmanship that goes about six or eight rounds. Finally Quint announces that he survived the Indianapolis. The look in Hooper's eyes is priceless. Not only does he know he can't possibly top that, but as a lifelong marine biologist he is in awe just to be in the presence of an Indianapolis survivor. Quint tells the story in ever more apocalyptic tones and it makes for a great moment in a great movie.

You are correct they were running unescorted but I doubt they would have been unescorted running straightline carrying the bomb. They had been running zigzag until late in the day that day. The Japanese commander said he would have gotten the Indy even zigzagging.

My friend walked right off the side of the hull as she rolled over into the water. He immediately began vomiting due to the oil. He doesn't remember getting picked up.

 

[Robowe]

If my history is correct, the Indianapolis had no escort ships. My understanding is that the mission was so top secret that it was 48 hours before the ship was even reported missing. However, If your survivor friend has told you otherwise I will take his first hand account as the truth.

We had no more atomic bombs for immediate use. If historians report that another would have been ready for use on August 21st thats probably accurate. But Truman and top government and millitary officials, after several meetings, believed that the second bomb would have a larger psychological impact than the first one and they deduced that Japan would be too shocked to call our bluff. They were right. When we told them we might have more they were in no mood to find out if we were telling the truth.

The first Jaws movie has a great scene where Brody, Quint, and Hooper are on Quints vessel and sharing after dinner drinks/stories. Hooper and Quint soon begin a game of one upmanship that goes about six or eight rounds. Finally Quint announces that he survived the Indianapolis. The look in Hooper's eyes is priceless. Not only does he know he can't possibly top that, but as a lifelong marine biologist he is in awe just to be in the presence of an Indianapolis survivor. Quint tells the story in ever more apocalyptic tones and it makes for a great moment in a great movie.

Here's the scene for those who have not seen it.


Now, here's a story (August 1, 2016) about what really happened.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...sharks-jaws-military-2016aug01-htmlstory.html

Here's the trailer to the move USS Indianapolis:The Legacy which is referenced in the story.