Trump supporters, how do you square this?

Misinformation. I am wondering if many of your views and opinions are tainted by false information that your receive on an ongoing basis? You're welcome to check other places, any legitimate source provides this same answer.

Why even bother? Honest question.

It's a waste of time, the only one you're trying to prove he's wrong to is him, and he ain't changing his mind.

The more you try to bring information the more he's going to switch gears and discombobulate. If I didn't know better I'd say he was trolling, but he's not. You're essentially standing out in your yard screaming at a tree at the top of your lungs and expecting the tree to see your point.

There are more worthwhile things to frustrate yourself with.
 
Why even bother? Honest question.

It's a waste of time, the only one you're trying to prove he's wrong to is him, and he ain't changing his mind.

The more you try to bring information the more he's going to switch gears and discombobulate. If I didn't know better I'd say he was trolling, but he's not. You're essentially standing out in your yard screaming at a tree at the top of your lungs and expecting the tree to see your point.

There are more worthwhile things to frustrate yourself with.
Yes, I've said this to myself many times. It is pissing in the wind. And PC is no different from any that I've spoken with in the Maga world. It is all the same. Most don't want to look at facts/data to resolve something, they don't want truth. I just hate it as an American. Half the country is selling their souls and the future of this country to a moral compass free charltan. It is hard to let this pass. I know the moral compass of this country matters in every aspect of our lives. And the amazing thing to me is that it is so easy to see. I know no one wants to hear comparisons to Germany in the 30's but I now get it. I now understand how it got out of hand until it was too late.

Let's hope I listen to you and myself and stop wasting my time in this thread.
 
If they couldn't have access to my ssn, then how could they find out they're cutting checks to people who are 150 years old and to multiple people on one ssn? And the government already has access to my number anyway. I supply it when I submit my taxes.
I'm not sure if you know this, but all government employees have a certain level of security access. While the government has this data, the 25 year old tech bros who your Fuhrer brought in were not sanctioned, approved, or vetted by anyone with the authority to do that.

Some tech bro who is 25 may have your info. He doesn't exactly work for the government. But you don't care. Give away all your freedoms because your team "won".

If some congress people wanted to get into the USAID building or the Dept of Education building to provide oversight, why would they be denied entrance????????
 
Why even bother? Honest question.

It's a waste of time, the only one you're trying to prove he's wrong to is him, and he ain't changing his mind.

The more you try to bring information the more he's going to switch gears and discombobulate. If I didn't know better I'd say he was trolling, but he's not. You're essentially standing out in your yard screaming at a tree at the top of your lungs and expecting the tree to see your point.

There are more worthwhile things to frustrate yourself with.
I think you're right. I'm doing the same thing. I realize it's pointless to argue with someone who has no ability (or maybe desire) to think critically, but I think I just need to see it a few times before I completely give up.

I'm not sure why I yell at trees, yet here I am.

HN is kind of like America. It's seen better days :)
 
Yes, I've said this to myself many times. It is pissing in the wind. And PC is no different from any that I've spoken with in the Maga world. It is all the same. Most don't want to look at facts/data to resolve something, they don't want truth. I just hate it as an American. Half the country is selling their souls and the future of this country to a moral compass free charltan. It is hard to let this pass. I know the moral compass of this country matters in every aspect of our lives. And the amazing thing to me is that it is so easy to see. I know no one wants to hear comparisons to Germany in the 30's but I now get it. I now understand how it got out of hand until it was too late.

Let's hope I listen to you and myself and stop wasting my time in this thread.
I think you're right. I'm doing the same thing. I realize it's pointless to argue with someone who has no ability (or maybe desire) to think critically, but I think I just need to see it a few times before I completely give up.

I'm not sure why I yell at trees, yet here I am.

HN is kind of like America. It's seen better days :)
I’m going to start a new thread in OT tonight. Not sure what about, but something that isn’t this. I like discussion, and I even like discussion with people I don’t agree with. But this…this ain’t it.
 
This is priceless

Musk is on TV with tRUMP sitting at the White House Desk

Musk is xplaining His/Musk's policies

Rather a Puppet Show

Steven Miller and Musk's little boy are watching
 
Misinformation. I am wondering if many of your views and opinions are tainted by false information that your receive on an ongoing basis? You're welcome to check other places, any legitimate source provides this same answer.

The article you posted explains it perfectly. They got shut down for forgiving student loans so he put out a different plan that was a slightly different way to pay back student loans. Even at the end of the article when saying whether it's true of false it says "needs context". If you were on the other side you would give two shits about the minor change.
 
I think you're right. I'm doing the same thing. I realize it's pointless to argue with someone who has no ability (or maybe desire) to think critically, but I think I just need to see it a few times before I completely give up.

I'm not sure why I yell at trees, yet here I am.

HN is kind of like America. It's seen better days :)
No ability? My God you hard core liberals in this thread haven't given a single inch to anyone the entire time. Do you see other guys who just lean left like kicker and CP87 who can have back and forths and at least give an inch? Have you not noticed me give an inch? Guys like you are just non stop name callers and won't hear a single thing that isn't 100% anti Trump. There is only one guy here I'll name call and it has nothing to do with his political opinion. And I'm about to do that now.
 
I’m going to start a new thread in OT tonight. Not sure what about, but something that isn’t this. I like discussion, and I even like discussion with people I don’t agree with. But this…this ain’t it.
Fry it doesn't matter which thread you start or go into. You're going to be a douche no matter where you go. You're the king of "only my opinion matters". Even if our opinions are only slightly off from one another you will still make an ass of yourself finding some random way to argue a point that isn't even relevant.

At least I just give my opinion here instead of attacking other people (excluding you of course). You attack everyone for their opinions even in the sports forums. It's like you have a severe case of little man syndrome.
 
Fry it doesn't matter which thread you start or go into. You're going to be a douche no matter where you go. You're the king of "only my opinion matters". Even if our opinions are only slightly off from one another you will still make an ass of yourself finding some random way to argue a point that isn't even relevant.

At least I just give my opinion here instead of attacking other people (excluding you of course). You attack everyone for their opinions even in the sports forums. It's like you have a severe case of little man syndrome.
Lol. If I had “little man syndrome” I would’ve deleted your little hobby thread that you have going here or something. I don’t need to feel important because I’m not, and a side effect of that is I don’t feel a need to try and make you think I am. I simply could not care less about your political beliefs or your opinion of me. If you want to get mad that’s on you.
 
Lol. If I had “little man syndrome” I would’ve deleted your little hobby thread that you have going here or something. I don’t need to feel important because I’m not, and a side effect of that is I don’t feel a need to try and make you think I am. I simply could not care less about your political beliefs or your opinion of me. If you want to get mad that’s on you.
Little man syndrome is the guy who just keeps talking shit to try to sound tough. People who suffer from that don't try to avoid the conflict. "Tough" in this situation is verbally bullying. That's you to a tee. It just comes of weird when you do it. Like the "prime land" argument where you kept going off on tangents that didn't make any sense. It's like you were just picking a fight for no reason. Little man syndrome.
 
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