View of HN is quite funny.

David79 said:
Obviously you ignored the Texas reference. And you think Iowa is going to pony up the kind of money they pay Ferentz right off the bat? Not a chance. Especially since if they fired Ferentz they would still be paying him.
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OK, so only 95 or so coaches would be getting a pay raise under the reduced salary.

Hell, I bet even Paww Whoads tries to slip his resume into the bottom of the pile.
 
RocknRollface said:
And then after hiring a mediocre at best guy like Davis, he then goes and handcuffs him by making him have Ruddock as the QB. Even GDs offense would work alot better if he had a QB who could/would throw the ball more than 10 yards.

Its just flat out makes no sense.

There is really no hope when thats the sort of decision making thats going on.
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How do you know--100%--that he handcuffs Davis by "making" him play Rudock at QB? I've never understood the view that KF micro-manages everything.

Sure, he has input, but either he gives his staff room to breathe or he doesn't. If all the offensive staff came to him and said, "We MUST make a change at QB if we want to win", do you REALLY think he would override that? And if not, do you then believe that offensive position coaches/coordinator merely haven't been "forceful" enough for KF to make the change? I say this because we heard, multiple times, how good Jake looked throwing the deep ball in camp.

I'm not saying don't play CJB. I truly believe that, for this season, playing BOTH QBs is essential. I am absolutely frustrated that we have NOT taken advantage of the fact that, per KF and GD, we have "two perfectly capable quarterbacks". But I AM saying that mere "KF stubborness" can't be the ONLY reason CJB isn't getting more into the mix.
 
rollingthunder said:
Let's start with the fact that only 9 coaches in America make more money than Iowa pays their coach.

So there are 118 D1 head coaches that would get a pay raise by taking the Iowa job.

Nope, no chance we get any quality candidates under those circumstances.
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Falsely-based assumption. NO way of knowing if the next coach--especially if a buyout of KF is involved--will get a "starting" salary in the KF range. Do you know how KFs first contract read?
 
trj said:
This.

Nick Saban has finally come to this conclusion, but for whatever reason KF can't.
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Well, Nick Saban coaches at a school where boosters pay off his house. My guess--ahem--is that isn't ALL boosters at 'Bama are paying. Thus, he can afford a little wiggle room in scheme changes/adjustments and go out and "recruit" the personnel needed. And he rarely, if ever, needs to go more than 300 miles to find said personnel.
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
Falsely-based assumption. NO way of knowing if the next coach--especially if a buyout of KF is involved--will get a "starting" salary in the KF range. Do you know how KFs first contract read?
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Try and follow along here, genius.

We can pay the next coach significantly less than what KF makes now, and it would still be a huge pay raise for 75% of the head coaches in America.

And if you want to look at KF's first contract, let's also look at the athletic department revenues and football budget back then.

For the umpteenth time, Iowa has one of the MOST PROFITABLE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENTS in the nation.

Money is NOT an issue. Get that through your thick skulls.
 
rollingthunder said:
Try and follow along here, genius.

We can pay the next coach significantly less than what KF makes now, and it would still be a huge pay raise for 75% of the head coaches in America.

And if you want to look at KF's first contract, let's also look at the athletic department revenues and football budget back then.

For the umpteenth time, Iowa has one of the MOST PROFITABLE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENTS in the nation.

Money is NOT an issue. Get that through your thick skulls.
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I hate to tell you but money is a issue. It is always a issue. If there is a buy out. they go to the big donners to get it. That's just the way it is. I think Bob understands that. Iowa does do well but don't think for a min. that money is not budgeted. to support all the other Sports that lose money. Not trying to rag on you but your wrong if you think $ is not a issue. Like I said before. It happens only if the Big donnors want it to and I don't belive they do a least or now
 
rollingthunder said:
Try and follow along here, genius.

We can pay the next coach significantly less than what KF makes now, and it would still be a huge pay raise for 75% of the head coaches in America.

And if you want to look at KF's first contract, let's also look at the athletic department revenues and football budget back then.

For the umpteenth time, Iowa has one of the MOST PROFITABLE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENTS in the nation.

Money is NOT an issue. Get that through your thick skulls.
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Again, you have ZERO idea what prospective coaches would be offered. Just because KF is one of the highest paid doesn't mean it's an "automatic raise" for the next coach. And it sure as HE&& doesn't mean the next coach will be any better, especially a coach making $500k per year. If you want to take a flyer on a guy at that level, fine.

And do you understand--or just not know--that KF actually worked without a "complete" contract his first season?

As for "thick skulls", when you loin-cloth-wearing club-luggers get a clue that condescension and/or ignorance isn't very appealing to anyone who can read above 3rd-grade level, you'll understand why you get many of the responses you do.
 
rollingthunder said:
OK, so only 95 or so coaches would be getting a pay raise under the reduced salary.

Hell, I bet even Paww Whoads tries to slip his resume into the bottom of the pile.
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I think you have a skewed view about how attractive the Iowa job is. What is more likely to happen is Iowa entering a carousel of coaches like most schools are facing. It's not easy to find a good coach and even harder to did one that will stick around.
 
You guys are all right. We should just stop playing football at Iowa. We have no chance of ever competing with any program above the level of Regina Middle School. No coach in their right mind would ever consider coming here, and even if they did, we could certainly never dream of landing one of the 2 or 3 coaches on the planet capable of producing competent, exciting, and moderately successful football.

It is absolute futility for Iowa fans to ever expect anything better than 6-6 and the occasional toilet bowl. With our limited resources and fan support it's incredible that we can even afford to pay the electric bill that keeps the scoreboard running. Iowa football will surely cease to exist once Kirk Ferentz is no longer involved with the program. It's the absolute miracle of miracles that Iowa football was somehow, someway able to struggle and survive for 110 years before the greatest football mind of our generation was able to resurrect it from the ashes of utter obscurity and lead us into the Golden Age that we are currently experiencing.

Thank God for Kirk Ferentz, because Lord knows that he is the one unique, indispensable individual that has ever been, or ever will be, able to overcome all of the daunting obstacles and immovable impediments that make the Iowa football job one of the absolute graveyards in all of sports. No person, before or since, could possibly muster the incredible resolve necessary to perform such a Herculean task. I am frankly honored just to live in the same state as this great man, and I thank God every single day of my life that the University allows me to pay them money so that 7 Saturdays a year I can brave the heat, cold, wind and rain, just so that I can take my seat among the thousands and gaze longingly at this wonderful man that accepts our mere pittance of a coaching salary and asks for nothing in return. He just gives and keeps on giving. For the day that he ceases walking the sidelines at Historic Kinnick Stadium will truly be one of the saddest days in the history of the Tall Corn State, as it will surely mark the end of any relevance, success, contention, or competitiveness that the Iowa football program could ever possibly hope to achieve.
 
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hawkeyebob62 said:
How do you know--100%--that he handcuffs Davis by "making" him play Rudock at QB? I've never understood the view that KF micro-manages everything.

Sure, he has input, but either he gives his staff room to breathe or he doesn't. If all the offensive staff came to him and said, "We MUST make a change at QB if we want to win", do you REALLY think he would override that? And if not, do you then believe that offensive position coaches/coordinator merely haven't been "forceful" enough for KF to make the change? I say this because we heard, multiple times, how good Jake looked throwing the deep ball in camp.

I'm not saying don't play CJB. I truly believe that, for this season, playing BOTH QBs is essential. I am absolutely frustrated that we have NOT taken advantage of the fact that, per KF and GD, we have "two perfectly capable quarterbacks". But I AM saying that mere "KF stubborness" can't be the ONLY reason CJB isn't getting more into the mix.
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Well...Davis has been talking for quite some time about wanting to use both QB's and getting CJ more playing time, but Kirk is always "we'll see" etc. Someone posted a bunch of quotes for each man in another thread...it was obvious who wanted to give CJ more time and who didn't.
 
rollingthunder said:
Let's start with the fact that only 9 coaches in America make more money than Iowa pays their coach.

So there are 118 D1 head coaches that would get a pay raise by taking the Iowa job.

Nope, no chance we get any quality candidates under those circumstances.
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Not ashamed to say it, i love u rolling thunder.
That is all
 
deanvogs said:
I'm cornfused. Am I a Kirk hater or fan?
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I'd say you're more a KF fan than hater. You have the one problem with KF: he hasn't axed Davis. You have many more problems with Davis.

Sidenote: can't we be supporters of Iowa football and still criticize the program? Some posters don't think the two mesh. Are posters who've shown their hostility for Davis or KOK true Iowa football fans? Are they trolls, instead?
 
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83Hawk said:
Well...Davis has been talking for quite some time about wanting to use both QB's and getting CJ more playing time, but Kirk is always "we'll see" etc. Someone posted a bunch of quotes for each man in another thread...it was obvious who wanted to give CJ more time and who didn't.
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Heck I wanted CJB Still say he has more upside. But not sure I am a better judge of what gives us the best chance to win on a given day than KF
 
rollingthunder said:
Try and follow along here, genius.

We can pay the next coach significantly less than what KF makes now, and it would still be a huge pay raise for 75% of the head coaches in America.

And if you want to look at KF's first contract, let's also look at the athletic department revenues and football budget back then.

For the umpteenth time, Iowa has one of the MOST PROFITABLE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENTS in the nation.

Money is NOT an issue. Get that through your thick skulls.
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PLEASE LET ME JOIN YER FAN CLUB. TIA
 
I believe kirk said in a presser this year that he is much more involved with the offense. this has been disputed by kirk fans for years. Mostly bob.
 
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