View of HN is quite funny.

[STILLBUSTER]

Heck I wanted CJB Still say he has more upside. But not sure I am a better judge of what gives us the best chance to win on a given day than KF

Don't sell yerself short, LASBUR; unless you suffer from psychotic breaks from reality and / or ingest larges doses of hallucinogens, you only need to have been watching the last 6 - 8 years to realize a chimp could've surpassed his results with proper personnel management.

 

[docholihawk]

Let's start with the fact that only 9 coaches in America make more money than Iowa pays their coach.

So there are 118 D1 head coaches that would get a pay raise by taking the Iowa job.

Nope, no chance we get any quality candidates under those circumstances.

I'd agree if I thought Barta was going to spend big money for a coach. He's been willing to pay KF big money but do you think he's going to be swinging a 3-4 million offer to get a name coach in here. To me he seems more likely to pay the big money after the coach is here and proven himself. I'd love for Iowa to go after a big name but something tells me that's not the way Barta rolls.

 

[rollingthunder]

I wood butt its all cattywampus. My phones prolly too dumperific

It's like KF trying to read an offensive playsheet.

 

[Jjgoiowa11]

It's like KF trying to read an offensive playsheet.

Quit being so hard on Krik. Hes nice and hes trying his best.

plus, he graduates players!!

 

[rollingthunder]

Quit being so hard on Krik. Hes nice and hes trying his best.

plus, he graduates players!!

Posts like this are why they invented the green button.

 

[docholihawk]

Try and follow along here, genius.

We can pay the next coach significantly less than what KF makes now, and it would still be a huge pay raise for 75% of the head coaches in America.

And if you want to look at KF's first contract, let's also look at the athletic department revenues and football budget back then.

For the umpteenth time, Iowa has one of the MOST PROFITABLE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENTS in the nation.

Money is NOT an issue. Get that through your thick skulls.

Is that how it worked with the basketball coaches. Just because you have the money doesn't mean you're going to spend it. Tell me what you've seen that would indicate Barta is going to spend big coming out of the gate. You're on here calling people out for thinking Barta might not spend 3 or 4 million out of the gate. I wish he would but if you could give me an indication of what you have to back up your argument then it's just your opinion and no more valuable than any other opinion. Calling people out for not agreeing with you when you haven't backed it up tells me you're not open to others opinions and that you're more interested in being right than you are interested in the topic.

 

[LASBUR]

I'd agree if I thought Barta was going to spend big money for a coach. He's been willing to pay KF big money but do you think he's going to be swinging a 3-4 million offer to get a name coach in here. To me he seems more likely to pay the big money after the coach is here and proven himself. I'd love for Iowa to go after a big name but something tells me that's not the way Barta rolls.

I don't want to get into defending KF. But what most people don't know or forget is the reason Barta locked him in was because he pays for all the other non revenue sports. He brings in the money. To most on here all that matters is Football wins and losses. That's not all that's involved. Look at what happned at Tenn. It doesn't take much to turn whole athletic dept into a mess. I know some of you don't want to hear it BUT

 

[deanvogs]

I'd say you're more a KF fan than hater. You have the one problem with KF: he hasn't axed Davis. You have many more problems with Davis.

Sidenote: can't we be supporters of Iowa football and still criticize the program? Some posters don't think the two mesh. Are posters who've shown their hostility for Davis or KOK true Iowa football fans? Are they trolls, instead?

I like to think of myself as a reasoned thinker, instead of a reactionary buffoon as many on here are. I think that is what some have a problem with. For instance many "haters" on here say KF doesn't care if Iowa wins or loses??? I mean talk about stupid. It is the over the top stupid things that make some question the loyalty of the "haters". Nobody minds criticism, I know I don't anyway.

I want KF gone, I think Iowa can do better at this point. I'm not sure what that has to do with Davis? Since I know that Iowa will not fire KF, my HOPE is he fires Davis and moves Brian into the spot. My reasoning for his is if he is going to let anyone open up the offense, the only person would be Brian. So instead of having freaking temper tantrums on this site daily about something that isn't going to happen, I try to be reasoned about things.

 

[docholihawk]

You guys are all right. We should just stop playing football at Iowa. We have no chance of ever competing with any program above the level of Regina Middle School. No coach in their right mind would ever consider coming here, and even if they did, we could certainly never dream of landing one of the 2 or 3 coaches on the planet capable of producing competent, exciting, and moderately successful football.

It is absolute futility for Iowa fans to ever expect anything better than 6-6 and the occasional toilet bowl. With our limited resources and fan support it's incredible that we can even afford to pay the electric bill that keeps the scoreboard running. Iowa football will surely cease to exist once Kirk Ferentz is no longer involved with the program. It's the absolute miracle of miracles that Iowa football was somehow, someway able to struggle and survive for 110 years before the greatest football mind of our generation was able to resurrect it from the ashes of utter obscurity and lead us into the Golden Age that we are currently experiencing.

Thank God for Kirk Ferentz, because Lord knows that he is the one unique, indispensable individual that has ever been, or ever will be, able to overcome all of the daunting obstacles and immovable impediments that make the Iowa football job one of the absolute graveyards in all of sports. No person, before or since, could possibly muster the incredible resolve necessary to perform such a Herculean task. I am frankly honored just to live in the same state as this great man, and I thank God every single day of my life that the University allows me to pay them money so that 7 Saturdays a year I can brave the heat, cold, wind and rain, just so that I can take my seat among the thousands and gaze longingly at this wonderful man that accepts our mere pittance of a coaching salary and asks for nothing in return. He just gives and keeps on giving. For the day that he ceases walking the sidelines at Historic Kinnick Stadium will truly be one of the saddest days in the history of the Tall Corn State, as it will surely mark the end of any relevance, success, contention, or competitiveness that the Iowa football program could ever possibly hope to achieve.

When your anger and condemnation shows through on a message board as yours is it might be time to look in the mirror and see what's driving it. I mistakenly thought message boards liked different opinions. Would you be happy if Iowa stopped playing football and we could all come here and you could tell us what to think and do. I'm sure 100's will want to sign up for that.

 

[rollingthunder]

Is that how it worked with the basketball coaches. Just because you have the money doesn't mean you're going to spend it. Tell me what you've seen that would indicate Barta is going to spend big coming out of the gate. You're on here calling people out for thinking Barta might not spend 3 or 4 million out of the gate. I wish he would but if you could give me an indication of what you have to back up your argument then it's just your opinion and no more valuable than any other opinion. Calling people out for not agreeing with you when you haven't backed it up tells me you're not open to others opinions and that you're more interested in being right than you are interested in the topic.

Here's another newsflash:

Iowa has historically put more resources into football than they have any other sport. We, as a fanbase, have much higher standards for football than we do for basketball. This is in fact a primary reason as to why football has far outperformed basketball in terms of onfield success for, oh, the last 35 years or so.

Even Barta, as incompetent as he is at just about everything, understands that football is the engine that drives the athletic department. It's almost sad how little understanding some of the posters around here have as to how our athletic department works. The Iowa football coach will ALWAYS make significantly more than the men's basketball coach.

This irrational fear that some of you mental patients seem to have is really clouding your basic logic and reasoning skills.

 

[rollingthunder]

When your anger and condemnation shows through on a message board as yours is it might be time to look in the mirror and see what's driving it. I mistakenly thought message boards liked different opinions. Would you be happy if Iowa stopped playing football and we could all come here and you could tell us what to think and do. I'm sure 100's will want to sign up for that.

You're not very good at the Internet.

 

[docholihawk]

I don't want to get into defending KF. But what most people don't know or forget is the reason Barta locked him in was because he pays for all the other non revenue sports. He brings in the money. To most on here all that matters is Football wins and losses. That's not all that's involved. Look at what happned at Tenn. It doesn't take much to turn whole athletic dept into a mess. I know some of you don't want to hear it BUT

Of course that's what it is and that might be the main reason Kirk is still here. KF, Barta have been hearing for years the fans displeasure of our football team. If the cash cow is there then there's no reason to change. We could hire Bob Stoops and donations wouldn't drop, they'd probably go up but in my opinion Barta runs the athletic department like KF plays football. Playing not to lose.

 

[Xerxes]

I don't want to get into defending KF. But what most people don't know or forget is the reason Barta locked him in was because he pays for all the other non revenue sports. He brings in the money. To most on here all that matters is Football wins and losses. That's not all that's involved. Look at what happned at Tenn. It doesn't take much to turn whole athletic dept into a mess. I know some of you don't want to hear it BUT

This is the key. In the NFL where GMs & coaches are judged by wins and losses, Kirk would have been a dead stick a long time ago. College Football is the ultimate business and for Iowa business has been great with Ferentz in charge.

If people truly want him gone there is only one way to do so. Don't show up. Saturday is your last chance because Nebraska & Wisconsin fans will fill up the available seats and Barta will be able to spin that. Northwestern fans couldn't fill a high school stadium. Kirk haters want to make a statement? You need about 25,000 committed fans to not show up on Saturday.

 

[docholihawk]

Thanks for the down vote rolling thunder, you just validated my point.

 

[OUTofTOWNHAWK]

I like to think of myself as a reasoned thinker, instead of a reactionary buffoon as many on here are. I think that is what some have a problem with. For instance many "haters" on here say KF doesn't care if Iowa wins or loses??? I mean talk about stupid. It is the over the top stupid things that make some question the loyalty of the "haters". Nobody minds criticism, I know I don't anyway.

I want KF gone, I think Iowa can do better at this point. I'm not sure what that has to do with Davis? Since I know that Iowa will not fire KF, my HOPE is he fires Davis and moves Brian into the spot. My reasoning for his is if he is going to let anyone open up the offense, the only person would be Brian. So instead of having freaking temper tantrums on this site daily about something that isn't going to happen, I try to be reasoned about things.

Howd you get all that ego up on that horse dean?

You are who this thread is made for. You are trying to back away from your support for kirk as gently as possible. Just because you couldnt see all this coming for as long as most. Now you say after all this time you come to the reasonable conclusion that kirk should move on. Now you want Brian to move to OC? I bet you cant see what will happen can you?

 

[docholihawk]

You're not very good at the Internet.

Are you a student?

 

[docholihawk]

You're not very good at the Internet.

Apparently not. Should I come out with with 75 posts or so and demand every body agree with me. Call people derogatory names and basically tell everyone that I'm smarter than them because I have an opinion. Would that make me better?

 

[mysteron]

I like to think of myself as a reasoned thinker, instead of a reactionary buffoon as many on here are. I think that is what some have a problem with. For instance many "haters" on here say KF doesn't care if Iowa wins or loses??? I mean talk about stupid. It is the over the top stupid things that make some question the loyalty of the "haters". Nobody minds criticism, I know I don't anyway.

I want KF gone, I think Iowa can do better at this point. I'm not sure what that has to do with Davis? Since I know that Iowa will not fire KF, my HOPE is he fires Davis and moves Brian into the spot. My reasoning for his is if he is going to let anyone open up the offense, the only person would be Brian. So instead of having freaking temper tantrums on this site daily about something that isn't going to happen, I try to be reasoned about things.

You think it is "reasoned" to say a lad with no OC experience would do better than KOK (former head coach and long time OC) and GD (long time OC with a Nat Title under his belt)? And this apparently is all based on the theory that he could change the fundamental conservative core of his father? Let me ask you a question: Did your father help form you? Or did you form him? Is our O-line better since he replaced Reese Morgan?

 

[DJL]

Howd you get all that ego up on that horse dean?

You are who this thread is made for. You are trying to back away from your support for kirk as gently as possible. Just because you couldnt see all this coming for as long as most. Now you say after all this time you come to the reasonable conclusion that kirk should move on. Now you want Brian to move to OC? I bet you cant see what will happen can you?

I will fully admit to backing away from KF as you put it "gently". Don't get me wrong, over the past couple of years, especially in 2012 I came in here and said KF needs to go plenty of times. But then last year I thought maybe there was hope we could turn it around. Kirk as really done a lot for Iowa football during his time, and I thought maybe he had one more run in him. Now I believe I was wrong. It's just become too brutal.

 

[LASBUR]

I will fully admit to backing away from KF as you put it "gently". Don't get me wrong, over the past couple of years, especially in 2012 I came in here and said KF needs to go plenty of times. But then last year I thought maybe there was hope we could turn it around. Kirk as really done a lot for Iowa football during his time, and I thought maybe he had one more run in him. Now I believe I was wrong. It's just become too brutal.[/QUO
What if win 9 and a bowl game this year ? Just Sayin