Improving the atmosphere at Carver Hawkeye

[LicThawk]

"The Morgue" Easy Changover. It's already dark and quiet, plus half the first 10 rows have set up a will.

 

[1hawkeye1]

One idea to improve Carver's atmosphere (other than moving the students) or a large money improvement straight up, could be to appeal to the fact that it is under ground entirely. If Iowa could think of like maybe a "Pit" type thing, or another underground slogan or something catching like that it could help in just the student section and overall feel. I know having a good team is the main thing but something of this nature could help I think. Any other thoughts?

So we're just a slogan away from being back?

 

[MelroseHawkins]

"The Morgue" Easy Changover. It's already dark and quiet, plus half the first 10 rows have set up a will.

My wife can attest, when watching on TV, I've called it the morgue for years.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

So we're just a slogan away from being back?

Yea. Who knew. Apparently.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

The problem with gimmicks and slogans is that when you play piss poor they get made fun of and have the opposite effect. They actually make things worse. See Indiana and "The Rock". Always thought it was soooooo cheeeeesy. Minnesota and "Row the Boat". May surpass the cheesiest thing in NCAA football history. Hate that crap.

Look at Nebraska and their “blackshirt” crap. Nobody takes them serious anymore and the blackshirt thing is the opposite of scary. It’s just a joke.

Just win games and the atmosphere will be fine.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Spot on observation here. I've written about the atmosphere at Carver and the placement of students from my vantage point of having watched games at the Fieldhouse on this and two other boards over the years. The problems at Carver boil down to the culture at Iowa which emphasizes revenues ahead of students and the product. Until that changes we will stay mired in mediocrity. Gary Barta survives in spite of his incompetence because he feeds that culture. I appreciate the sentiment of the OP but the suggestion offered doesn't address the heart of the problem.

So, what are you saying, we're never going to get students camping out in tents in front of Carver to get good seats!!

 

[HaydenHawk56]

One way to improve the Carver Experience would be to install one of these we can put Gary Barta in:

 

[hawkeyemark]

So, what are you saying, we're never going to get students camping out in tents in front of Carver to get good seats!!

You can come visit my name plaque at the veterans cemetary here in Pensacola the day that happens. Enjoying our beautiful beaches this time of year with the temp 75 beats the hell out of agonizing over the state of Iowa basketball.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

You can come visit my name plaque at the veterans cemetary here in Pensacola the day that happens. Enjoying our beautiful beaches this time of year with the temp 75 beats the hell out of agonizing over the state of Iowa basketball.

I sincerely thank you for your service for our country.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

One way to improve the Carver Experience would be to install one of these we can put Gary Barta in:

I can see the Press Citizen headline now.

"Record Revenue Generated at Carver vs Northwestern on Cold Blistery Blizzard Evening."

 

[hawkeyemark]

I sincerely thank you for your service for our country.

I appreciate your kind thoughts. Most military people consider the military their job and don't want people to look at them as heroes. Any way you slice it military life does involve sacrifices that other people don't have to make. Getting ready to close my career as a military civilian which has had its own amount of stress. Now if I can just watch some decent basketball in retirement

 

[lightning1]

"The Morgue" Easy Changover. It's already dark and quiet, plus half the first 10 rows have set up a will.

60% of the fans already have 1 foot in the grave as it is. That name is fitting.

 

[Fryowa]

So, what are you saying, we're never going to get students camping out in tents in front of Carver to get good seats!!

Correct. No Carver Crazies.

 

[lightning1]

Here are some fitting nick names for CHA.
The Shit Pit
The Crater Of Crushed Dreams
The Depression (no more needs said)
The Bowl of Barely
McCaffery's Morgue
Barta's Burrow. - Not a jackass but close enough.
The Den of Denial
The Horrible Hollow
Loser's Lair
The Nest of Next Year
I could go on and on.

 

[mrolympia]

put the students on the floor and winning.

 

[homes]

You'll never convince the nostalgic alumni on this board of that.

Today's students are tomorrow's alumni. If you treat them poorly while they're in school, the chance of reeling them in after they've left gets more difficult. But, they've probably crunched the numbers and know pretty well the calculus on all of this already, so I don't expect any changes to be made. It's just a nice theoretical discussion.

 

[thedukeofearl]

One idea to improve Carver's atmosphere (other than moving the students) or a large money improvement straight up, could be to appeal to the fact that it is under ground entirely. If Iowa could think of like maybe a "Pit" type thing, or another underground slogan or something catching like that it could help in just the student section and overall feel. I know having a good team is the main thing but something of this nature could help I think. Any other thoughts?

Play with the lights out. Players wear miners hats.....

Or just light the glass and rim.....

 

[skinnykilmer17]

Spot on observation here. I've written about the atmosphere at Carver and the placement of students from my vantage point of having watched games at the Fieldhouse on this and two other boards over the years. The problems at Carver boil down to the culture at Iowa which emphasizes revenues ahead of students and the product. Until that changes we will stay mired in mediocrity. Gary Barta survives in spite of his incompetence because he feeds that culture. I appreciate the sentiment of the OP but the suggestion offered doesn't address the heart of the problem.

This is spot on. I used to attend games at The Fieldhouse as well and there are things that COULD be done to improve Carver but it is the current culture here.

It has been an arms race in college sports for years and so much insecurity from administrators that there is never enough revenue. And there is a lot of truth to that in the way things are structured.

And Carver will never be as loud as the Fieldhouse but for the most part it was plenty loud pre-Alford era.

 

[lightning1]

Today's students are tomorrow's alumni. If you treat them poorly while they're in school, the chance of reeling them in after they've left gets more difficult. But, they've probably crunched the numbers and know pretty well the calculus on all of this already, so I don't expect any changes to be made. It's just a nice theoretical discussion.

It would require Gutless Gary to have a brain, to accurately project that. He doesn't. I'm sure his crazy idiot math has assured him it will work out down the road. But the factors are stacking up against him. The maximum amount that the fans will pay for mediocrity has been reached. The cost of doing business isn't going down. Gutless and his coaches expect raises and performance bonuses for mediocre results. How long can Gutless Gary afford to keep ticket prices at the current level? A level that already can't convince fans the product is worth the current price of admission.
Gutless Gary is going to shit a kitten when the media contracts begin to decline. I'd love to see the look on his face when that happens.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

I appreciate your kind thoughts. Most military people consider the military their job and don't want people to look at them as heroes. Any way you slice it military life does involve sacrifices that other people don't have to make. Getting ready to close my career as a military civilian which has had its own amount of stress. Now if I can just watch some decent basketball in retirement

Heroes or not, most military have kahoonas most us non-military people do not have.