I knew what you meant I was just being a smart ***. I do disagree with you on this though but no biggie.
Ferentz' postgame quote on CJ
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I knew what you meant I was just being a smart ***. I do disagree with you on this though but no biggie.
KF seems very complimentary of Beathard in both of these post game presser clips here. I'm not sure where the OP heard the other comments, on field with Brooks right after the game, maybe?
https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1683636
https://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1683636
imported_ankle23
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I listened to this live as I listen to every game on the radio, plus the postgame.
Eddie P. and Ferentz have had similar conversations regarding practicing well not meaning you'll play well - the context about the team having a good week of practice. They talked about that both for Ball State and Iowa State - good week of practice and then playing poorly in the game. That is why Eddie P. made that reference regarding Beathard - it was a 'refrain', if you will, from prior similar conversations.
The whole context of this 'didn't play well in practice' isn't as bad as some are making it out to be. It is odd as Ferentz typically doesn't say something 'negative' about a player publicly. That being said, saying someone didn't practice well on Thursday is pretty vanilla as it comes to being criticized.
The entire context of Ferentz talking about Beathard was extremely complimentary.
If someone thinks this was Ferentz taking a shot at the 'fans' I don't think they listened to the interview and are really reaching. I don't think Eddie P. was defending Beathard either.
Eddie P. and Ferentz have had similar conversations regarding practicing well not meaning you'll play well - the context about the team having a good week of practice. They talked about that both for Ball State and Iowa State - good week of practice and then playing poorly in the game. That is why Eddie P. made that reference regarding Beathard - it was a 'refrain', if you will, from prior similar conversations.
The whole context of this 'didn't play well in practice' isn't as bad as some are making it out to be. It is odd as Ferentz typically doesn't say something 'negative' about a player publicly. That being said, saying someone didn't practice well on Thursday is pretty vanilla as it comes to being criticized.
The entire context of Ferentz talking about Beathard was extremely complimentary.
If someone thinks this was Ferentz taking a shot at the 'fans' I don't think they listened to the interview and are really reaching. I don't think Eddie P. was defending Beathard either.
imported_ankle23
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The comment was made in the post game interview done with Eddie P. and Dolph -- radio interview -- as is done after every game.
I figured it was something on the Hawkeye Radio Network airwaves.
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DDThompson
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That is so funny because it is so true.
The thing that baffles me most about Rudocks play the first 3 and a half games is how much the B1G Network guys were raving about how great his deep ball was during the practice they were in Iowa City for.
Griffith and Dinardo made several comments about how great his throws down the field looked.
Griffith and Dinardo made several comments about how great his throws down the field looked.
Interesting take. It's also possible he was taking a friendly jab at Beathard because he had an abnormally bad practice Thursday. Who knows I guess but it does seem out of character for him to not give the general "he works hard and we had confidence he could do this" answer.
That's because Rudock is a really good quarterback. It's just for some reason he came out way to careful for his own good. Maybe it's because of coaches drilling him on ball protection or maybe he felt the pressure from Beathard. All I know is I'm hoping Beathard is a stud so that Rudock coming out sluggish ends up being a blessing in disguise.
hawkdrummer1
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BINGO! It's not so much a question of Jake vs CJ. They're both good QBs and by all accounts... great kids. Jake is more a victim of the absolutely sh**** play-calling and offensive approach than anything.
Much like James Vandenberg (25-7 TD/INT ratio with KOK in 2011.. 7-8 the next year with Greg Davis) he's being destroyed by his OC.
It's the OFFENSIVE STRATEGY. for god sake's... is it that hard to see?
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tweeterhawk
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imported_ankle23
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how's this for offensive strategy (wasn't this great to see - teams have to show some respect with the down field threats - notice the cornerbacks first couple steps, even at 10+ yards of cushion)
[video]https://vine.co/v/O7B020qeuEe[/video]
Okay, so whose strategy was in play when CJ was in the game?
PR and Political Correctness are not really the same thing.
Here is the definition of political correctness.
"The avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against."
I just can't imagine any possible way CJB can fall into such a category. What you have here is tone deaf public relations.
Don't use big words you don't understand.
imported_ankle23
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I assume you listen to the post game interview on a regular basis, and listened to todays? Because your take is off, big time. I could equally say 'don't explain a situation you don't understand'........you are simply taking an opportunity to bash Ferentz.
imported_ankle23
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PR is managing the message between an individual or organization and the public. When a message is delivered that can be taken by the public in such a negative manner, it is tone deaf.
imported_ankle23
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Uh, no. They ask him questions about CJ and he turns those questions into a"we have 2 good quarterbacks" response. Look back about prior pressers and when he talks about Jake. No topic shift to CJ there.
"Topic shifting is a rhetorical deception where one person in a discussion (the shifter) manages to subtly change the discussion's topic to another, related but different topic, without explicitly announcing the change of subject or reaching any kind of mutual agreement that such a change is appropriate."
CJB has that Ricky Stanzi gunslinger mentality. Remember the games of 3 picks but somehow Stanzi would toss a game winning TD pass or lead the game winning drive. CJB has that type of memory. He doesn't remember his last throw. He just chucks it. He is a gambler too. Ruddock is the percentage guy. So is Ferentz but maybe KF at least gives CJB more snaps. I do agree he should start.
As for KFs comments, I don't know why anyone is suprised. That's KF. His relationship with the press is rocky anyway. And were we at practice? Maybe we should quit complaining about remarks KF makes and hope that Iowa improves so we go 4-1. If all I have to worry about is KFs snarky comments all year. I can deal.
As for KFs comments, I don't know why anyone is suprised. That's KF. His relationship with the press is rocky anyway. And were we at practice? Maybe we should quit complaining about remarks KF makes and hope that Iowa improves so we go 4-1. If all I have to worry about is KFs snarky comments all year. I can deal.
