CFN projects 0-8 for Iowa in the Big Ten Conference.

The last 3 years that Iowa had spring games they had a combined record of 32-7. All of those 3 years had new starting qbs This means that if current trends continue they will win more than 10 games.
 
Every year that I ran over a squirrel, e win at least 1 game and sometimes 10. I ran over one the other day. So we got that going for us....
 
Hawknick said:
The last 3 years that Iowa had spring games they had a combined record of 32-7. All of those 3 years had new starting qbs This means that if current trends continue they will win more than 10 games.
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Nice research. Seriously, it's good. But I'll bet you $200 right now they will not win 10 games this year.

FreedComanche
 
FreedComanche said:
LOL................tell me how much you love ferentz on a scale from 1-10. I'm also betting that you'd give your life for ferentz. Dude, why do you think so highly of him after all the brain dead things he's done?

FreedComanche
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Honestly, on a scale of 1-10 I would give Ferentz an 8 on the job he has done at Iowa over the course of his entire career. You and all the KF bashers like to focus on a cherry picked sample of data to bash and bash repeatedly.

Fact- The talent in the program was the lowest it had been in about 20 years when KF took over from Hayden.

Fact- It took him 3 years to get bowl the Hawks bowl eligible and in his 4th year Iowa had its first undefeated conference season in about 80 years.

Fact- KF has taken the team to 2 BCS Bowls and won a BCS Bowl, something Hayden never did.

Fact- He has developed more NFL talent than any other coach in Iowa history.

Fact- He has developed a Doak Walker winner, Groza winner, Outland Winner, Davey Obrien winner, AP Player of the Year, Heisman Runner-up, Mackey Award winner and multiple B1G award winners including 2 Big Ten Players of the Year.

Fact- KF has won B1G Coach of the Year 3 times and was National Coach of the Year once.

Fact- Season ticket sales and football revenue are as high as they have ever been.

The list could go on and on.
 
Section136 said:
Honestly, on a scale of 1-10 I would give Ferentz an 8 on the job he has done at Iowa over the course of his entire career. You and all the KF bashers like to focus on a cherry picked sample of data to bash and bash repeatedly.

Fact- The talent in the program was the lowest it had been in about 20 years when KF took over from Hayden.

Fact- It took him 3 years to get bowl the Hawks bowl eligible and in his 4th year Iowa had its first undefeated conference season in about 80 years.

Fact- KF has taken the team to 2 BCS Bowls and won a BCS Bowl, something Hayden never did.

Fact- He has developed more NFL talent than any other coach in Iowa history.

Fact- He has developed a Doak Walker winner, Groza winner, Outland Winner, Davey Obrien winner, AP Player of the Year, Heisman Runner-up, Mackey Award winner and multiple B1G award winners including 2 Big Ten Players of the Year.

Fact- KF has won B1G Coach of the Year 3 times and was National Coach of the Year once.

Fact- Season ticket sales and football revenue are as high as they have ever been.

The list could go on and on.
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First off, thanks for calling me a ferentz basher and not a hater. That is accurate as I hate nobody.

I don't think anybody here is saying that he's not had success at Iowa. There can be no doubt that he has. I've said before that he had success because of the good asst. coaches that he hired. Now that they've been gone a while you see ferentz for what he is.

And I am curious (not saying that in a smart alec way) why you don't find it very, very troubling that you have a head coach that allowed his offense to be so absolutely horrible without making a change. That wasn't a first year coach who let his offense be ranked 113 out of 121 teams in the nation, that was a coach in his 14th year! Also he always says he's doing what will give his team the best chance to win when that is clearly not the case.

I could go on as well, but I'll stop for now.

FreedComanche
 
FreedComanche said:
First off, thanks for calling me a ferentz basher and not a hater. That is accurate as I hate nobody.

I don't think anybody here is saying that he's not had success at Iowa. There can be no doubt that he has. I've said before that he had success because of the good asst. coaches that he hired. Now that they've been gone a while you see ferentz for what he is.

And I am curious (not saying that in a smart alec way) why you don't find it very, very troubling that you have a head coach that allowed his offense to be so absolutely horrible without making a change. That wasn't a first year coach who let his offense be ranked 113 out of 121 teams in the nation, that was a coach in his 14th year! Also he always says he's doing what will give his team the best chance to win when that is clearly not the case.

I could go on as well, but I'll stop for now.

FreedComanche
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Im not a huge Greg Davis fan and would have been fine if he was let go after last year. However, I understand that KF wants to give him more time. The offense he is trying to put in is brand new. New terminology, new plays, new everything.

The funny thing is some people on here were clamoring for this OC change for the last 6 or 7 seasons and they finally get it and now KF is terrible and lost all of his good assistants. Which one was it? Was KOK the problem or is all of KF's success owed to his past cooridnators?

That might not be a fair question to you because I dont know what your stance on KOK was.
 
Section136 said:
Im not a huge Greg Davis fan and would have been fine if he was let go after last year. However, I understand that KF wants to give him more time. The offense he is trying to put in is brand new. New terminology, new plays, new everything.

The funny thing is some people on here were clamoring for this OC change for the last 6 or 7 seasons and they finally get it and now KF is terrible and lost all of his good assistants. Which one was it? Was KOK the problem or is all of KF's success owed to his past cooridnators?

That might not be a fair question to you because I dont know what your stance on KOK was.
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Good question. I had never viewed KOK as an advantage for ferentz. Just look at the offensive yearly stats and that will tell you that he wasn't good for Iowa. Now the argument is that he was just running the offense the way ferentz told him to. I understand that.

I believe that Norm was a huge difference maker for ferentz and is a very big reason why ferentz had success. He also had some good asst. coaches that could really recruit well. With Norm and those other asst. coaches you get the biggest reasons why ferentz had success.

So...........to break it all down: Good D. coord + good asst. coaches that recruited well = success. And of course you have to credit ferentz with that because he hired them.

I basically judge head coaches by the coaches they hire for to win games for them. ferentz is not doing well in this regard and hasnt for the past several years. And for goodness sake please keep out of a game day situation as he's proven time and time again he's is a horrible game day coach and has no idea how to manage the clock. But, hey he beat Nick Saban by completely botching the clock in a game.

FreedComanche
 
I pre nominate KF for national coach of the year for winning 10 or more games in 2013. Another KF fact he is only one of two coaches in Iowa history to have won more games in a season than the basketball team. The other coach being Evy.
 
wundergrape said:
This is true. On the flipside, there are few given losses either.
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True. Its crazy who Iowa can lose to one week and beat the next. I just think going foward(and for the last couple of years) we will see less of the big wins because we dont have that game changing defense.

Also its crazy how many points the defense used to put up. It was almost given to get a td a game.
 
Section136 said:
You forgot to mention the fact that KF's Iowa team pretty much dominated Saban's team for about 50 minutes of that game.
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I didn't leave that out on purpose. The last minute of the game is about all I remember of it at present. I'm happy that there was a time when Iowa could compete and beat SEC teams.

FreedComanche
 
Section136 said:
Honestly, on a scale of 1-10 I would give Ferentz an 8 on the job he has done at Iowa over the course of his entire career. You and all the KF bashers like to focus on a cherry picked sample of data to bash and bash repeatedly.

Fact- The talent in the program was the lowest it had been in about 20 years when KF took over from Hayden.

Fact- It took him 3 years to get bowl the Hawks bowl eligible and in his 4th year Iowa had its first undefeated conference season in about 80 years.

Fact- KF has taken the team to 2 BCS Bowls and won a BCS Bowl, something Hayden never did.

Fact- He has developed more NFL talent than any other coach in Iowa history.

Fact- He has developed a Doak Walker winner, Groza winner, Outland Winner, Davey Obrien winner, AP Player of the Year, Heisman Runner-up, Mackey Award winner and multiple B1G award winners including 2 Big Ten Players of the Year.

Fact- KF has won B1G Coach of the Year 3 times and was National Coach of the Year once.

Fact- Season ticket sales and football revenue are as high as they have ever been.

The list could go on and on.
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You speak a lot of truth there Section. I'll be the first in line when it comes time to talk about what KF has accomplished at Iowa. He's done a terrific job, all in all.

My problem is that the majority of KF's success came before 2005. The last 8 years, his teams have only won 8 or more regular season games just two times (2008 & 2009). The rest of the time, it's been 7-5 or worse. I'd like to be wrong, but it doesn't look good for changing that this coming season, either.

Myself, I would just be happy if KF's teams would do a better job against the teams that they are supposed to beat. The losses to ISU, Minnesota, etc. have really been the difference between going 9-3 and 7-5. Take care of those games, go 8-4 or 9-3, and I would have a much different view of the past 8 years. That stat about Iowa's record against 10+ point underdogs comes to mind. Yes, upsets happen, but Iowa has been horrendous in that regard. I'm not one of those who goes way overboard and bashes KF for every little thing, but if there's one thing I would "cherry pick" as my main complaint about KF, that would be it. Too many losses to heavy underdogs.
 
1977Hawkeye said:
You speak a lot of truth there Section. I'll be the first in line when it comes time to talk about what KF has accomplished at Iowa. He's done a terrific job, all in all.

My problem is that the majority of KF's success came before 2005. The last 8 years, his teams have only won 8 or more regular season games just two times (2008 & 2009). The rest of the time, it's been 7-5 or worse. I'd like to be wrong, but it doesn't look good for changing that this coming season, either.

Myself, I would just be happy if KF's teams would do a better job against the teams that they are supposed to beat. The losses to ISU, Minnesota, etc. have really been the difference between going 9-3 and 7-5. Take care of those games, go 8-4 or 9-3, and I would have a much different view of the past 8 years. That stat about Iowa's record against 10+ point underdogs comes to mind. Yes, upsets happen, but Iowa has been horrendous in that regard. I'm not one of those who goes way overboard and bashes KF for every little thing, but if there's one thing I would "cherry pick" as my main complaint about KF, that would be it. Too many losses to heavy underdogs.
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I will admit there has been some head scratchers when it comes to some of KF's losses at Iowa.

He has also won a lot of games as the underdog or games Iowa wasnt supposed to win.

Those come close to balancing out throughout the years. If it had to tilt one way we probably have a couple more bad losses than surprising wins.

ISU, Wisky and NU are light years ahead of where they were during Hayden's tenure. PSU is now in the B1G, which Hayden didnt have to deal with regularly.
 
OUTofTOWNHAWK said:
Here the defense scored half the points in this one and this is one of the better offenses in the last 14 years. Phil is doing a pretty good job but we wont see a defense this good for a while.


The conservative game can work when you have this defense. Also note the Ricky Stanzi sneak.

2009 Iowa Football - Iowa Upsets #5 Penn State - YouTube
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Um, the Hawks won 21-10 that night in Happy Valley and the defense scored 2 of them.
 
I dont know what I am missing?

FG
safety
AC td
Rb td
FG?

Did they miss a pat?

Anyways point being is how many points did that defense score and how many pick sixes did that offense give up? That defense was so overpowering. I just dont see that type of defense for awhile. Thus I dont see a good season with a conservative game plan. Add in bad game day coaching and no 2 min offense and your in trouble.
 
OUTofTOWNHAWK said:
I dont know what I am missing?

FG
safety
AC td
Rb td
FG?

Did they miss a pat?

Anyways point being is how many points did that defense score and how many pick sixes did that offense give up? That defense was so overpowering. I just dont see that type of defense for awhile. Thus I dont see a good season with a conservative game plan. Add in bad game day coaching and no 2 min offense and your in trouble.
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They went for 2 when it was 11-10?
 
OUTofTOWNHAWK said:
I dont know what I am missing?

FG
safety
AC td
Rb td
FG?

Did they miss a pat?

Anyways point being is how many points did that defense score and how many pick sixes did that offense give up? That defense was so overpowering. I just dont see that type of defense for awhile. Thus I dont see a good season with a conservative game plan. Add in bad game day coaching and no 2 min offense and your in trouble.
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Offense- 6 points (Arob TD)
Defense- 2 points (Safety)
Special Tems- 13 points (2 FG's, TD and an extra point)

Last I checked a blocked punt returned for a touchdown and FG's were special teams plays, not defensive.
 
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