WSJ: Iowa State could be odd man out in conference realignment

Iowa State doesn't have a good product to appeal to the major players. These moves by the major universities is going to cause a lot of hardship to the smaller programs. Most of these smaller athletic programs are looking at reduced revenues when their BCS conference folds. Iowa State is no exception.

The availible options may bring about a lot of unwanted changes to these universities and all their programs, not just athletics. For Iowa State, the Big East option is a better than ending up in a MAC, MW or non-BCS conference. The lost revenue of being in a non-BCS conference could cause ripple effects beyond ISU's athletic programs.

While some Hawkeye fans might enjoy Iowa State being dropped down a notch, the economic consequences to the state will not be funny. Losses to the Iowa State program will not be made up with gains by the Iowa program.
 
Paul Clark runs an ISU website, so he does speak for ISU fans, especially considering the support he got from clones after the article was written a few years ago.
 
Stewo said:
Anymore? Nothing. See: Nebraska to the Big 10.

Anyway, what did I say about acedemics vs. the conference teams play in? I talked about a college in the state of Iowa that has nearly 30,000 students and how some people are too dense to draw a line between sports and a college's true purpose...education. Clear now?
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what? you are the one crying about the true mission of the university. please explain how this would be affected by joining a different athletic conference.
 
I have no desire to see the Big 12 breakup,and ISU to flounder. Sadly, they were part of a conference that did not believe in equality among their members. I cannot help but see Texas and Ok. thru a political lens. They are all about free market,and that greed is good mentality. The Big Ten has always been about socialism,where everyone sticks together,and has each others back. The red states in that is the Big 12 hate that concept,and so they are seeing the result. The blue states that are the big ten believe in all for one,one for all,and are seeing that result. This is also true for the NFL,which is also socialist,sharing revenue,leaving strong franchises in little markets like Green Bay. Baseball is free market,and is struggling. Lessons to be learned. Sticking together makes for a better stronger union,even when the strong must help the weak. Too bad Texas will not help ISU,like OSU helps NW.
 
9YRPLAN said:
what? you are the one crying about the true mission of the university. please explain how this would be affected by joining a different athletic conference.
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How do you not understand that going to a conference that is not BCS will kill ISU's money flow? What happens when a college loses lots and lots of money? Cut-backs, right? Do I seriously need to explain further?
 
You ISU fans need to stop hitting the panic button as you are going to be all right. You have the ACC to thank for blowing up the Big East which will result in the remnants of the B12 and Big East to merge and create a new BCS conference.

The only problems you have right now is paying back all that money you borrowed against the future revenues of that big TV contract. Once the dust settles there is no way anyone is going to pay a premium for the rights of this new conference. Focus on that as the rest of us in the state of Iowa do not want to be burdened with your debt.
 
ISUer said:
Actually the only one's I run into that feel this way are the guys only guys on this site who live in their mom's basements, so about 30 of them. I know for one thing reading Jon's comments, he does not feel this way and I thank him for that. I have family members who could be affected by such a fall at ISU, so its sad that some basement dwellers feel this way, but you take it with a grain of salt, they most likely live unhappy lives.
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Our family has both Iowa and ISU graduates. I do want ISU to have a place to go. I don't even like the idea of super conferences and openly want the Big Ten to stay at 12 members. I honestly think that long term a decision to be a member of a 10 or 12 member conference filled out from the Big East and Big 12 would be best. Why?

These 16 team conferences that transcend three time zones are very risky. When(not if) they fall apart, ISU and the other members will be in a better place than places like Washington State, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Oregon State.

The Big 8 made a mistake adding the four Southwest schools. I think it was a mistake one year ago to get back in bed with those schools.
 
Stewo said:
How do you not understand that going to a conference that is not BCS will kill ISU's money flow? What happens when a college loses lots and lots of money? Cut-backs, right? Do I seriously need to explain further?
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I'm pretty sure that money derived from athletic endeavors (gate receipts, licensing, tv, bowls, etc.) can only be used for the athletic department. How does losing athletic money truly affect the rest of the university? I'm truly trying to see the trickle down here.

Does the fact that ISU might end up in the MAC or Big East really affect those high school seniors who are looking to be veternarians, or gain a job in the ag or engineering field? If there are cutbacks, it will be in the athletic department only.
 
Stewo said:
How do you not understand that going to a conference that is not BCS will kill ISU's money flow? What happens when a college loses lots and lots of money? Cut-backs, right? Do I seriously need to explain further?
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ISU has already cut baseball, softball, and others just to fund football. If they have money issues its their own damn fault. Maybe practice responsible spending? hmm?
 
Stewo said:
How do you not understand that going to a conference that is not BCS will kill ISU's money flow? What happens when a college loses lots and lots of money? Cut-backs, right? Do I seriously need to explain further?
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yes, you do.

academics will in no way directly affected by your athletics conference. will the overall culture of the school change? probably, but it is not certain. the athletic department is a separate entity.
 
I kind of find myself feeling sorry for the Clones. This would really suck balls to be in this situation.

Anybody else think that Pollard will say screw it & jump ship? That would really be the straw that broke the camel's back for IA State. Think of trying to find an AD with the uncertaintly of having a conference. It will be interesting to see if schools such as IA State, Baylor, K-state etc. will lose administrators such as the AD.
 
NewMexHawk said:
If isu football were to be relegated to the MWC or CUSA, Iowa would be the ONLY team left in the state, which increases Iowa's worth. As Paula once said a few years ago, anything bad for isu is good for Iowa.

"Iowa State and Baylor did not respond to requests for comment Monday." Jamie was probably crying and didn't want to sob into the telephone.
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How?
 
i dont think iowa gives a crap either way. its not like they are beating us out for recruits or stealing our fans.
 
9YRPLAN said:
yes, you do.

academics will in no way directly affected by your athletics conference. will the overall culture of the school change? probably, but it is not certain. the athletic department is a separate entity.
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I'm not going to pretend that I have all of the answers because I obviously don't, but you essentially nailed it. The overall culture WILL change. It may not even be right away, but over time things will change.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
I kind of find myself feeling sorry for the Clones. This would really suck balls to be in this situation.

Anybody else think that Pollard will say screw it & jump ship? That would really be the straw that broke the camel's back for IA State. Think of trying to find an AD with the uncertaintly of having a conference. It will be interesting to see if schools such as IA State, Baylor, K-state etc. will lose administrators such as the AD.
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Pollard will be out of a job after this all shakes out. That was a dumb move by him to borrow money against an unstable revenue stream. When those loans come calling the Administration of Iowa State and the Board of Regents will be calling for his head.
 
ssckelley said:
Pollard will be out of a job after this all shakes out. That was a dumb move by him to borrow money against an unstable revenue stream. When those loans come calling the Administration of Iowa State and the Board of Regents will be calling for his head.
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bingo. wonder boys days are counted. chickens coming to roost.

he's mortgaged the athletic department based on current revenue streams knowing that revenue streams likely to drop significantly. probably figuring on FEMA and the state to bail him out, like they've done prior.
 
ssckelley said:
Pollard will be out of a job after this all shakes out. That was a dumb move by him to borrow money against an unstable revenue stream. When those loans come calling the Administration of Iowa State and the Board of Regents will be calling for his head.
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A really smart move on JP's part would be to climb up on that big new screen in the dark of night and loosen a few bolts so it crashes down during the next moderate wind blowing through Trice, then file the insurance claim.
 
tweeterhawk said:
A really smart move on JP's part would be to climb up on that big new screen in the dark of night and loosen a few bolts so it crashes down during the next moderate wind blowing through Trice, then file the insurance claim.
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that's certainly been his mode prior. for example, they were ready to remove the floor in hilton prior to the floods, and then all of a sudden that activity stopped. nice way to get a new floor, i suppose.
 
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