We are NOT back.......

[Section136]

This is what the real question is. When I look at Iowa I see a team that has better than 9th place talent yet they are sitting in 9th place. I also look at the individual players and try to assess who has gotten much better or even slightly better from their freshman year? I honestly can't see marked improvement from anyone on the roster from their earlier in their career. Marble has been under FM for 3 years. Is he significantly better? No, I don't think so. Part of the development should happen naturally without too much coaching from the player developing physically and being exposed to BIG basketball.

Maybe Fran should focus less on trying to get opposing teams players to transfer and more on improving the team he has.

And when you make one team your Super Bowl (Wisconsin) then it's difficult to get up for the other games.

Hmmm, 4 posts in the 8 days since Iowa beat Wisconsin and now he is back a day after the Hawks lose a game they should have won.

Busy life until this morning dooshbadger?

 

[TChawk]

That is all.

Not even really that close.

 

[sportstalent]

Our season isn't wrapped around how we play against Iowa. Yours clearly is in regards to Wisconsin. I imagine when I turn on Iowa's next home game that Carver will be half full. If your season comes down to how you fared against one opponent then that is a pretty low goal.

Iowa should have better than a 2-5 record. Yeah I get you played a lot of the tough teams early but you played quite a bit of those games at home. Purdue was a team you probably should have beat either home or away. It's not being a troll by saying that in order to make it to the NCAA tournament that you have to win some games like that.

Iowa can still finish 10-8 but it will be a very weak 10-8 record since you only play MSU, OSU, Michigan once. Is that enough for an NCAA tournament bid with no "signature" wins? It's almost to the point where you have to beat Indiana.

Sure you really aren't an Iowa fan? When you start ripping Oglesby because he is the only Iowa offensive problem I won't believe you are a Badgers fan.

By your thinking that Wisconsin is an elite program that should be the only signature win Iowa needs, they are elite by the way.

 

[Section136]

Our season isn't wrapped around how we play against Iowa. Yours clearly is in regards to Wisconsin. I imagine when I turn on Iowa's next home game that Carver will be half full. If your season comes down to how you fared against one opponent then that is a pretty low goal.

Iowa should have better than a 2-5 record. Yeah I get you played a lot of the tough teams early but you played quite a bit of those games at home. Purdue was a team you probably should have beat either home or away. It's not being a troll by saying that in order to make it to the NCAA tournament that you have to win some games like that.

Iowa can still finish 10-8 but it will be a very weak 10-8 record since you only play MSU, OSU, Michigan once. Is that enough for an NCAA tournament bid with no "signature" wins? It's almost to the point where you have to beat Indiana.

Indiana, MSU and Wisky at home.

OSU, Michigan, NW and Purdue on the road.

That doesnt see like quite a bit of the tough teams at home to me.

 

[dave3912]

Our season isn't wrapped around how we play against Iowa. Yours clearly is in regards to Wisconsin. I imagine when I turn on Iowa's next home game that Carver will be half full. Iowa should have better than a 2-5 record.

Everything you just said shows you know nothing about anything.

Iowa fans on here love to beat Wisconsin solely because of guys like you. Solely for bragging rights over you and your fellow Connie lovers. So many think that Bo Ryan is the greatest coach in the world, he isn't, he is good but not great.

Clearly the next home game won't be half full, but you are too arrogant to know that. Iowa fans quit going to games during lickliter's crap show because it was slow, boring and didn't work.

Just along with you thinking Iowa should be better than 2-5 with the #1 SOS so far IN CONFERENCE PLAY and starting 3 true freshman.

Yep, makes sense.

 

[storminspank]

Iowa is still a year away like a lot of us thought.
But, still... if The Bubble stays this big and weak, there's always a chance. Iowa just needs to win games. They'll need to steal at least one somewhere now.

 

[Section136]

Iowa is still a year away like a lot of us thought.
But, still... if The Bubble stays this big and weak, there's always a chance. Iowa just needs to win games. They'll need to steal at least one somewhere now.

I dont know what you consider stealing but if Iowa can win their home games (PSU, NW, NEB, MIN and ILL) and win at PSU and NEB that would put them at 9-9. Lets just say Iowa goes 1-1 in the BTT to finish at 21-12. That may be enough.

 

[storminspank]

And to be fair, they are 1 game ahead of where I thought they'd be in conf so far...

12/31 vs. Indiana IOWA CITY LOSS
01/06 at Michigan ANN ARBOR LOSS
01/10 vs.Mich State IOWA CITY LOSS
01/13 at Northwestern EVANSTON LOSS
01/19 vs. Wisconsin IOWA CITY WIN
01/22 at OhioState COLUMBUS LOSS

01/27 at Purdue W LAFAYETTE LOSS


If they win 8 of the last 11 (not completely impossible), they are prob in.



01/31 vs. Penn State IOWA CITY WIN
02/03 at Minnesota MINNEAPOLIS LOSS
02/06 at Wisconsin MADISON LOSS
02/09 vs.Northwestern IOWA CITY WIN
02/14 at Penn State UNIVPARK WIN
02/17 vs.Minnesota IOWA CITY WIN
02/21 at Nebraska LINCOLN WIN
02/27 vs. Purdue IOWA CITY WIN
03/02 at Indiana BLOOMINGTON LOSS
03/05 vs. Illinois IOWA CITY WIN
03/09 vs. Nebraska IOWA CITY WIN

 

[storminspank]

I dont know what you consider stealing but if Iowa can win their home games (PSU, NW, NEB, MIN and ILL) and win at PSU and NEB that would put them at 9-9. Lets just say Iowa goes 1-1 in the BTT to finish at 21-12. That may be enough.

Yes, I think so too.
I'm just looking for that marquee win for Iowa. Right now it's either ISU or WI, not that great.
Winning at MN would be one. Don't see if happening though.

 

[activebadger]

So many think that Bo Ryan is the greatest coach in the world, he isn't, he is good but not great.


.

Then Iowa fans at Carver have stormed the court the last two times Wisconsin has played there because he's a good but not great coach? Got it.

Highest winning % in BIG history. If that isn't great then you need a new definition for it. Plus we are 5-2 this year having lost our starting PG a week before the season and losing our starting forward for a big chunk of the season and now one of our top reserves.

Fran doesn't need to be starting 3 freshman. Basabe looks much better to me than Woodbury so I can't see why he is starting 3 freshman other than to have a built in excuse if Iowa struggles.

 

[bcl20]

Yeah, ruling a 13-7 team out of the tournament it January is just strange. There's still a very realistic path to the tourny.

 

[storminspank]

Yeah, ruling a 13-7 team out of the tournament it January is just strange. There's still a very realistic path to the tourny.

At least 12 games left. That's a ton.

It's not like Iowa lost to Texas Tech at home or something... they lost a Purdue team that is playing pretty darn good right now (although you couldn't tell by the game yesterday)

 

[sportstalent]

At least 12 games left. That's a ton.

It's not like Iowa lost to Texas Tech at home or something... they lost a Purdue team that is playing pretty darn good right now (although you couldn't tell by the game yesterday)

Yes, there is a lot of basketball to be played and with a few breaks, that Iowa hasn't gotten so far in conference play, this team still has a good, not great chance at making the NCAA tournament.

Going to the NIT is not the worst thing, but now that the season is going, I think the fans are seeing just how close this team actually is to making the NCAA tournament and being ranked, which is what brings out frustration.

 

[dave3912]

Then Iowa fans at Carver have stormed the court the last two times Wisconsin has played there because he's a good but not great coach? Got it.

Highest winning % in BIG history. If that isn't great then you need a new definition for it. Plus we are 5-2 this year having lost our starting PG a week before the season and losing our starting forward for a big chunk of the season and now one of our top reserves.

Fran doesn't need to be starting 3 freshman. Basabe looks much better to me than Woodbury so I can't see why he is starting 3 freshman other than to have a built in excuse if Iowa struggles.

When Iowa isn't ranked and the other team is, yes they storm the court but what the hell does that have to do with him being a "great" coach?

He has a great winning percentage, way better than Iowa's I know that but I don't consider him a "great" coach.

I agree, Woody shouldn't be starting right now. I love how you call it an "excuse", about starting three freshman isn't an excuse, it's a fact. Not many teams in the country win that many games in the toughest conference in the country and have the toughest conference schedule so far. Especially with minimal help from upper classmen, and only having one senior who isn't a real threat to score. Gesell/Clemmons/Woody aren't Trey Burke, Hardaway Jr or GR3.

 

[activebadger]

When Iowa isn't ranked and the other team is, yes they storm the court but what the hell does that have to do with him being a "great" coach?

He has a great winning percentage, way better than Iowa's I know that but I don't consider him a "great" coach.

.

When you have the highest winning % all time in one of the most storied conferences ever, then you are great. Period.

Wisconsin wasn't ranked when we just played you, not even close. Even if we were, storming the court isn't justified after beating ANY fringe Top 25 team.

It's an excuse FM can use if his team doesn't perform to expectations. "Well give my team a break, I was starting 3 freshman." Basabe is the better player at this point. In fact I'd also bring Clemmons off of the bench and start MG, Marble, White, Basabe and McCabe.

 

[bcl20]

When you have the highest winning % all time in one of the most storied conferences ever, then you are great. Period.

Wisconsin wasn't ranked when we just played you, not even close. Even if we were, storming the court isn't justified after beating ANY fringe Top 25 team.

It's an excuse FM can use if his team doesn't perform to expectations. "Well give my team a break, I was starting 3 freshman." Basabe is the better player at this point. In fact I'd also bring Clemmons off of the bench and start MG, Marble, White, Basabe and McCabe.

No one cares.

 

[storminspank]

Then Iowa fans at Carver have stormed the court the last two times Wisconsin has played there because he's a good but not great coach? Got it.

Highest winning % in BIG history. If that isn't great then you need a new definition for it. Plus we are 5-2 this year having lost our starting PG a week before the season and losing our starting forward for a big chunk of the season and now one of our top reserves.

Fran doesn't need to be starting 3 freshman. Basabe looks much better to me than Woodbury so I can't see why he is starting 3 freshman other than to have a built in excuse if Iowa struggles.

Let's not let facts get in the way of anything....

Thad Matta (103-42) 71.03% B1G win percentage
Bo Ryan (137-56) 70.98% B1G win percentage


Next time, research, then talk/type.

 

[LG210]

Yes, there is a lot of basketball to be played and with a few breaks, that Iowa hasn't gotten so far in conference play, this team still has a good, not great chance at making the NCAA tournament.

Going to the NIT is not the worst thing, but now that the season is going, I think the fans are seeing just how close this team actually is to making the NCAA tournament and being ranked, which is what brings out frustration.

Frustration is natural when your team isn't winning, but if you had realistic expectations going into the year, you should view this season as a positive, thusfar.

(1) We won the State of Iowa, which has been rare over the last decade or so.

(2) No bad losses in the non-conference. VT wasn't a shining moment, but not that bad of a loss in my opinion.

(3) Although we are only 2-5 in the B1G, we are only a few points away from being 5-2. We are far more competitive against the upper-eschelon of the league than we have been in a long time.

(4) The freshmen have looked really good at times this year. Gesell and Clemmons are a bit farther along than Woody, but 95% of us would have guessed that before the season.

(5) Marble will definitely be back next year, so we will only lose one player.

Next year is shaping up to look pretty good.

 

[tm3308]

I still think we're pretty good. We play some close games and we're improving in some important areas. We just have some deficiencies that are difficult to adjust mid season, but our young roster will certainly improve on these things in the future. We just need to fire our coach, and find a young up-and-comer to get us to the next level.

I was having difficulty picking my jaw up off the floor for much of this post. But you redeemed yourself, Ghost.

 

[Section136]

Vadger is a massive troll. He is pretty non-existent around here after Iowa beats UW and while UW was struggling in non-conference. Just check his post activity.

He has as many posts today on this board than he had in the entire 8 day period after Iowa beat Wisconsin.