Tyler Cook

DDThompson said:
Juniors become seniors
Sophomores become juniors
Freshmen become sophomore slumps
Incoming freshmen become freshmen.

I say before it’s declared that the 18-19 season is over and the end of the world we wait to see if it is.
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Yes, and those progressions yield more development in some players (and programs) than others. This year's team took a European trip, the kind that's supposed to improve team chemistry. We got 4-14 in the Big Ten.

Player development hasn't proven to be one of Fran's strengths. We'll see...
 
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Not that I have a strong opinion one way or another, I have to admit, the debate about pulling guys with 2 fouls makes me chuckle a bit.

The same fans that rail on Fran for doing so, also would be railing on him if he kept putting in a player and he fouled out with 10 minutes left.

I could just hear it now, "What the hell was he thinking! So and so shouldn't have been out there with 4 fouls!" "Any coach that knows anything knows you save your best players for crunch time. He's an idiot."
 
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#1DieHardHawk said:
Not that I have a strong opinion one way or another, I have to admit, the debate about pulling guys with 2 fouls makes me chuckle a bit.

The same fans that rail on Fran for doing so, also would be railing on him if he kept putting in a player and he fouled out with 10 minutes left.

I could just here it now, "What the hell was he thinking! So and so shouldn't have been out there with 4 fouls!" "Any coach that knows anything knows you save your best players for crunch time. He's an idiot."
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yep - and to add to that... he often times breaks that rule. He did yesterday. I see him play guys with 2 fouls all the time in the first half. It's not even a rule.
 
InGoodCo said:
yep - and to add to that... he often times breaks that rule. He did yesterday. I see him play guys with 2 fouls all the time in the first half. It's not even a rule.
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He put Bohannon in to shoot free throws, then took him right back out.
 
InGoodCo said:
I'd argue that having all our key guys at the end of the game yesterday was pretty important. Illinois on the other hand didn't. Yesterday was one game I was ok with the 2 foul and sit idea. EVEN tho - Fran played guys with 2 fouls anyways.
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My opinion is playing your best players as many minutes as possible gives you a better chance of winning a game. I would also argue that sitting out big minutes in the first half makes it harder to get into the flow of the game in the second half.

I think it's a close call, so there is no stupid decision either way. If the player is playing good when he gets his second foul, you should for sure keep him in tho. Sitting a hot player extended minutes, just to give you better odds of having that player for the end of the game is pretty stupid for lots of reasons.

There is no guarantee he would ever foul out anyway.

There is no guarantee he wouldn't foul out anyway (like Black last night).

There is no guarantee he would even be playing good at the end of the game.

The game could maybe already be decided by the end of the game if he played more minutes early while he was playing good.
 
InGoodCo said:
Yes, I watched. He played Dailey with 2 fouls as well. He breaks this rule ALL the time.
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You don't really need Daily in a close game late situation where you might need Cook to eek out the win. I still don't like the practice. It wouldn't kill us to have a guy foul out. I'd love to see where Iowa ranks in number of players fouling out over the course of a season. I bet we're way below the average which you could argue is good but I think it is problematic if players are missing significant minutes due to this strategy.
 
Hey, I don't like it either - I am not saying its a good strategy (though it may have helped with so many fouls on our guards yesterday). I also am saying, ya can't really call it a rule when he breaks it all the time. He does. I see it. He's done it with Cook. He's done it a lot yet all I see on here is how he doesn't play guys with 2 fouls in the first half. That would be true if that was what he did. He's more cautious with players who get 2 fouls in the first half though, and he will sit them if he can afford it. I am ok with that strategy. He often times sits a guy, it's obvious he can't afford to and brings them back in. I don't see how any one would have a problem with that strategy.
 
Northside Hawk said:
I totally agree that the unwritten two foul rule sucks. Dean Smith was one of the first to implement it and it took him a long time to get that first NC. Lute definitely did not adhere to and in 1980 it helped us get to the Final Four. Ronnie Lester and Kenny Arnold played many first half minutes with two fouls. Why can't coaches trust their best players to play smart? Do they have to prove their the smartest in the room?

John Thompson once proposed a solution to this madness. Add a sixth foul, like the NBA. Then again his Georgetown teams were some of the most physical in the country back in the day.
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I watch a fair amount of college basketball and many coaches do not adhere to this rule anymore AND they only play 7-8 guys. Cook hasn't fouled out all year (and often ends games with 3 fouls) but is constantly sitting on the bench because he's in 'foul trouble'. It doesn't make any sense, let the players foul out, at least in that instance they're on the floor as much as they can. Instead Fran essentially fouls them out by sitting him and they could have played 20 more minutes in the game but didn't because of the coach.
 
Robowe said:
And, so it begins ...

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damn. does he really think he needs at least 2 more years before he can try and make an nba club; with one of those two years NOT playing basketball? if he goes pro, ok. i think that's a year too soon, but a transfer somewhere else doesn't make any sense, in my mind. he'd have to sit out an entire season.
 
If Cook is gone, which it seems like a very strong possibility and Garza doesn't feel like he's getting the coaching he deserves.... it might get pretty ugly in the post.
 
I think timing is important here. You’re asking a kid about next year immediately coming off an OT loss to end a miserable season. I want to see what Cook says in like 3 months.

I’ll also say this now. If he transfers out instead of going to play pro ball. That’s a lot more indicative of internal problems in the Iowa program and Fran is in trouble.
 

sounds like if he leaves its pro ball not a transfer. but that's speculation. i'll say it again, a transfer doesn't make sense. you can tell he's really tight with these guys, so if it ain't pro ball, i don't see him leaving.

Edit: And thanks for posting that interview.
 
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