Tracking 2012 Class Offers

Montanahawk said:
Excellent. My knowledge of Hawkeye DE recruiting has taken a leap forward. I'm hoping Coe will be with us in 2012 and at DE, but that's a number of speculative steps to get there.
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He will spend 2 years at CC, and wouldn't be with the hawks until 2013.

superfan12 said:
We like this a lot. Although, it's almost a given he ends up at Michigan.
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I think 2 weeks ago this was a pretty common thought

DexterMorgan said:
While I agree they're the favorite, I believe they already have 5 or 6 OL verabls this class. I gotta think the longer he holds off his commitment the better for us. If he was set on Michigan he'd sign now.
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However, with Kalis now signing they have 6 OL recruits and 2 of them are highly highly rated OT prospects. Word is that they would like Diamond to play guard and he's not the biggest fan of that. I think odds for someone else went up a lot, but he could likely still end up at Michigan, but not nearly as certain anymore.
 
Mick said:
Looking at the Michigan Scout website, they are saying him and Terry Richardson are taking visits together. I think it's more along the lines of seeing whats out there and not being on their dime.
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Both are teammates at Cass Tech. The hugely productive Detroit Public School in D.1A recruits(rumors are the 2013 and '14 classes are even better). They're also teammates with S/WR Ruben Liles and Laron Taylor who have Iowa among their top two-three favorites. So, I take this as a sign that 1. Ferentz and Co. are doing a great job recruiting Cass Tech and that bodes well in the short and long term. 2. That it's likely that Liles and Taylor are either favoring or co-favoring Iowa(speculation on my part but doubt these two 4 star commits to UM bother making the trip to Iowa unless they're teammates are talking it up.). Bottom line-probably won't get Stone or Richardson but, this is a good thing in reflecting Liles and Taylor's very high interest and in securing quality commits from Cass Tech in future classes.
 
hawkfarmer said:
Also, homer, is Donovan Johnson still on the team, I have not heard what happened with him?
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Donavan Johnson is gone .... academics were the culprit ... I'm really bummed about it, however, I still like the future for Iowa's DL.

Also, he's not going to be going the JUCO route in Iowa and will be returning to TX ... so that suggests that he's gone for good.
 
Montanahawk said:
Both are teammates at Cass Tech. The hugely productive Detroit Public School in D.1A recruits(rumors are the 2013 and '14 classes are even better). They're also teammates with S/WR Ruben Liles and Laron Taylor who have Iowa among their top two-three favorites. So, I take this as a sign that 1. Ferentz and Co. are doing a great job recruiting Cass Tech and that bodes well in the short and long term. 2. That it's likely that Liles and Taylor are either favoring or co-favoring Iowa(speculation on my part but doubt these two 4 star commits to UM bother making the trip to Iowa unless they're teammates are talking it up.). Bottom line-probably won't get Stone or Richardson but, this is a good thing in reflecting Liles and Taylor's very high interest and in securing quality commits from Cass Tech in future classes.
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Cass Tech is a terrific football-producing school. However, their head coach has a super-strong Michigan bias. It seems like Rich Rod nearly alienated the folks over at Cass Tech ... however, with Hoke back there (a "Michigan man") ... the odds are that it will go back to being a Wolverine factory. Of course, Hoke is also a tremendous recruiter and Michigan won't always be able to offer all of Cass Tech's guys .... and Iowa's standing with the Cass Tech coaches seems to have gone up quite a bit. Of course, the improvement in Iowa's standing with their coaches shouldn't be too much of a surprise because I'm sure that Soup has always had a relationship with them.

Just as long as Iowa continues to manage to pull in a guy or two from Michigan ... I think that Iowa's pull in Michigan will continue to improve. We're not there yet ... but our rep there seems to be improving. We were gaining ground there some while ago ... however, off-field issues probably soured the pot a bit ... and we had to almost return to the ground floor.
 
D. Johnson is gone huh? Wow Iowa's record of losing recruited DTs continues. Fergusen, Johnson, Bain, Kanellis, Jackson, Ewen, Esh, Kittrell, thibeaux, Willcox, McDuffie, Hundertmark.

The only guys Rivals has listed as recruited DTs at Iowa in the last decade who didn't leave the team before their eligibility was up are Covert and Davis and these guys are RS freshmen.

I know they recruit guys listed at other positions that end up at DT. But it still is quite a streak.

Kind of the Hawkeye equivalent of a Spinal Tap drummer or a Red Hot Chili Pepper's axe man.
 
homerHAWKeye777 said:
Cass Tech is a terrific football-producing school. However, their head coach has a super-strong Michigan bias. It seems like Rich Rod nearly alienated the folks over at Cass Tech ... however, with Hoke back there (a "Michigan man") ... the odds are that it will go back to being a Wolverine factory. Of course, Hoke is also a tremendous recruiter and Michigan won't always be able to offer all of Cass Tech's guys .... and Iowa's standing with the Cass Tech coaches seems to have gone up quite a bit. Of course, the improvement in Iowa's standing with their coaches shouldn't be too much of a surprise because I'm sure that Soup has always had a relationship with them.

Just as long as Iowa continues to manage to pull in a guy or two from Michigan ... I think that Iowa's pull in Michigan will continue to improve. We're not there yet ... but our rep there seems to be improving. We were gaining ground there some while ago ... however, off-field issues probably soured the pot a bit ... and we had to almost return to the ground floor.
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Apparently, according to his twitter, Royce, isn't going to take visits after all. He must of received a call or two from Ann Arbor. On Cass Tech's head coach, yes, his name is Thomas Wilcher. He was a running back at UM in the 80's. I remember him, he was fast but, had serious leg injuries. So, obviously, he's very pro-UM, and I think your read on the RR situation is correct. With a former well-liked Carr assistant at UM, they're going to be difficult to beat for the top echelon kids. That said, I'm not sure if Iowa fans are aware of this but Bo liked Ferentz and the way Iowa plays football under him. Bo, in fact, said in 2002 that "Iowa plays football the way it's supposed to be played" and he wasn't won to throw out compliments easily. Ferentz was flattered by this and him and Bo exchanged calls. A story has it(this is a rumor but a pretty well sourced one) when Bo was in the hospital(he had chronic heart problems that eventually killed him) Coach Ferentz stopped in to visit him. He'd been on a recruiting visit in Michigan and had gone out of his way to visit Bo. Carr, happened to be visiting Bo at the same time. Carr, was impressed that Kirk would do that and he really like Ferentz after that. In fact rumors had it that when Carr retired in 2007 he wanted Ferentz to come to Ann Arbor. He was his #1 pick. BTW-from nearly all accounts Carr couldn't stand RR, and didn't want him as UM coach. Anyway, this may mean exactly nada in terms of Iowa's recruitment at Cass Tech, but Ferentz's class, his humble personality, the way the Iowa program is run and plays(the old school UM people love physical, fundamentally sound football teams), and of course Bo and Llyod's affection could factor in here as well. Now, I'm not saying Iowa is on the same par with Michigan with Michigan folk, Wilcher included, but, don't think for a second that Iowa isn't going to enjoy some advantage over a lot of other schools(*cough* Michigan State *cough*) when UM isn't after a kid and a former UM player is involved. Something to make note of in this class and years to come.
 
Montanahawk said:
Apparently, according to his twitter, Royce, isn't going to take visits after all. He must of received a call or two from Ann Arbor. On Cass Tech's head coach, yes, his name is Thomas Wilcher. He was a running back at UM in the 80's. I remember him, he was fast but, had serious leg injuries. So, obviously, he's very pro-UM, and I think your read on the RR situation is correct. With a former well-liked Carr assistant at UM, they're going to be difficult to beat for the top echelon kids. That said, I'm not sure if Iowa fans are aware of this but Bo liked Ferentz and the way Iowa plays football under him. Bo, in fact, said in 2002 that "Iowa plays football the way it's supposed to be played" and he wasn't won to throw out compliments easily. Ferentz was flattered by this and him and Bo exchanged calls. A story has it(this is a rumor but a pretty well sourced one) when Bo was in the hospital(he had chronic heart problems that eventually killed him) Coach Ferentz stopped in to visit him. He'd been on a recruiting visit in Michigan and had gone out of his way to visit Bo. Carr, happened to be visiting Bo at the same time. Carr, was impressed that Kirk would do that and he really like Ferentz after that. In fact rumors had it that when Carr retired in 2007 he wanted Ferentz to come to Ann Arbor. He was his #1 pick. BTW-from nearly all accounts Carr couldn't stand RR, and didn't want him as UM coach. Anyway, this may mean exactly nada in terms of Iowa's recruitment at Cass Tech, but Ferentz's class, his humble personality, the way the Iowa program is run and plays(the old school UM people love physical, fundamentally sound football teams), and of course Bo and Llyod's affection could factor in here as well. Now, I'm not saying Iowa is on the same par with Michigan with Michigan folk, Wilcher included, but, don't think for a second that Iowa isn't going to enjoy some advantage over a lot of other schools(*cough* Michigan State *cough*) when UM isn't after a kid and a former UM player is involved. Something to make note of in this class and years to come.
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Of course Dantonio has been mentored by Tressel ... so that immediately implies that he likely knows how to "work the system." I don't trust that guy one bit .... and, as a consequence, I wouldn't ever underestimate him.
 
homerHAWKeye777 said:
Of course Dantonio has been mentored by Tressel ... so that immediately implies that he likely knows how to "work the system." I don't trust that guy one bit .... and, as a consequence, I wouldn't ever underestimate him.
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As UM and Iowa fan...couldn't agree more ;^) Actually, there seems to me that there is something a little slippery about Lt. Dan. But, that may be my biases speaking.

On the Ferentz-Carr relationship I had forgotten the brew-ha-ha over Carr watching the UM-Iowa game in IC from the Iowa box. Which the RR camp took as an obvious slam. I believe, though that Carr was invited by Norm Parker, an old friend to sit with him family over there. That's another angle on this Norm is friends with loads of old UM guys. He was on a coaching staff at Eastern Michigan University (both Norm and my alma mater)with Llyod. Coach Parker, is very well-liked and respected around the state with the old guard and he, of course, has loads of good things to say about Kirk which influenced Carr's opinion. So, nothing concrete here where Iowa's got a leg up in all UM related cases where UM isn't after a kid via these relationships but, definitely, there's a number of aspects of these relationships that are likely to help Iowa get kids from Michigan.
 
homerHAWKeye777 said:
Your question about DE recruits was a good one. We landed 2 guys who I'm really pleased about (McMinn and Raymon) ... however, the coaches really seemed to want to land another DE-type who could play at a really high level (or could play the role of a speed rusher). We kept on sitting well with a bunch of really good guys ... however, in the end, we kept on whiffing on them. As a late commit, we did land Tsopanides, however, I still kinda view him as developing into a high-motor type of guy on the interior. If he has adequate speed, then maybe he could possibly pull off being a strong-side DE .... we'll see.

Now again, if you look at Iowa's DE recruiting situation ... we appear to have a number of guys who appear pretty interested ... Winston and Lohn being two primary ones coming to mind. Ekakatie could possibly be a strong-side guy like Lohn ... however, I'd have him pegged more for interior play. Render seemed interested in us some while ago ... however, I'm not certain if he still is. Also, this is just a hunch, but Kozan is a kid who appears to have a good bit of interest in Iowa ... and his teammate, Michael Mann, now seems to have an Iowa offer too. Thus, Mann could potentially be a guy who is in the picture now too. I like Clark and he's visited ... however, I haven't gotten a vibe quite where Iowa sits with him.

Anyhow, Iowa's DE recruiting is pretty interesting because it's definitely a significant need. We're going to be graduating Binns, Daniel, and Forgy from the depth chart after the '11 season ... and we're going to be needing guys to enter the picture to fill the voids on the depth chart.
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I just wanted to update that Iowa doesn't seem to be high up on Winston's list anymore. I don't if it's because he's lost interest in us ... OR if we've lost interest in him. Considering that Iowa now already has 2 DL commits for the '12 class in addition to landing Tsopanides ... AND given that the Hawks haven't offered many new DEs in a while ... it could be that Hawks are feeling pretty comfortable where they stand with a number of the guys they've offered.
 
Article on Gunner Kiel on ESPN and Scout and Iowa isn't mentioned in either. Too bad too as the kid sounds like a great prospect both physically and mentally.
 
DexterMorgan said:
Article on Gunner Kiel on ESPN and Scout and Iowa isn't mentioned in either. Too bad too as the kid sounds like a great prospect both physically and mentally.
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Oklahoma, Indiana, Missouri, and Alabama are is his top schools.

I'd say he ends up at Oklahoma.
 
Mick said:
Oklahoma, Indiana, Missouri, and Alabama are is his top schools.

I'd say he ends up at Oklahoma.
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Said in the article that he wanted to be the only QB in that schools class. OU has Trevor Knight who they poached from A/M. I think he ends up at Indiana.
 
Any news on the players the last couple of weeks who've been described as "going to make a decision soon"? It's been quiet on the recruiting front, and i need a fix.
 
DE Evan Winston out of Michigan is deciding this week. Rivals has listed offers from: Iowa, Ball State, Bowling Green, Cincinatti, Eastern Michigan, Houston, Marshall, Missouri, Syracuse, Toledo, Western Michigan.


No idea his feelings on Iowa but us and Missou are by far his best offers.
 
Section136 said:
DE Evan Winston out of Michigan is deciding this week. Rivals has listed offers from: Iowa, Ball State, Bowling Green, Cincinatti, Eastern Michigan, Houston, Marshall, Missouri, Syracuse, Toledo, Western Michigan.


No idea his feelings on Iowa but us and Missou are by far his best offers.
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We did not make his final two.
 
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