Rebuilding in year 7

Jok 247 composite ranking of .8285 wasn't athletic and didn't have any major offers. Yet we are to believe you thought he had upside? You can't see the upside to Moss who is athletic, but we are to believe you saw it in Jok???? I for one and not buying it for one second......

Moss 247 composite ranking of .8550 is very athletic, with offers from Auburn, and Iowa St.

Heck even Jordan had a higher 247 composite ranking than Jok at .839

Jok had one of the most unique recruiting situations I can remember. Considered the top recruit in the entire country and then completely fell off and almost ended up at Drake. It was obvious there was upside there if he could get and stay healthy.
 
Jok had one of the most unique recruiting situations I can remember. Considered the top recruit in the entire country and then completely fell off and almost ended up at Drake. It was obvious there was upside there if he could get and stay healthy.

Why can't you see the upside to Moss then?

Jok's first year PER 11.5 (35% from 3)
Moss so far PER 14.3 (43% from 3)

Nothing to look at, Moss is a scrub stuck behind Ellingson according to 56.
 
Why can't you see the upside to Moss then?

Jok's first year PER 11.5 (35% from 3)
Moss so far PER 14.3 (43% from 3)

Nothing to look at, Moss is a scrub stuck behind Ellingson according to 56.

Moss has looked very good in a few games this year. I'm liking what I'm seeing out of him. If he can be more consistent he can be really good
 
Take into account that Iowa has looked good in wins against really really bad teams. I'll wait to see how Moss does against an actual defense.
 
Moss has looked very good in a few games this year. I'm liking what I'm seeing out of him. If he can be more consistent he can be really good

How can this be? You told us earlier that he was stuck behind Ellingson, and he took a RS year, and that means he sucks balls. You said that meant he has to be worse than Brady since he was behind him, and that he sucked balls because kids don't RS.
 
How can this be? You told us earlier that he was stuck behind Ellingson, and he took a RS year, and that means he sucks balls. You said that meant he has to be worse than Brady since he was behind him, and that he sucked balls because kids don't RS.

This is what he does. He bitches and moans until someone pins him into a corner and then he calls the dogs off by making a quick positive comment. Then he'll go back to bitching and moaning. He's a crotchety old woman.
 
How can this be? You told us earlier that he was stuck behind Ellingson, and he took a RS year, and that means he sucks balls. You said that meant he has to be worse than Brady since he was behind him, and that he sucked balls because kids don't RS.

I don't know how good he will end up, he's looked good against bad teams. You can't just look at this season like you've proved something after one game. A few days ago you thought you had me proved wrong about Bohannon and then he looked terrible last night. Guess what, at some point all the guys I've been worried about are going to look great some games and terrible others. Ellingson was 12-16 in one week from 3 earlier this year, are you going around telling all of the people who said he should transfer that they were wrong?
 
This is what he does. He bitches and moans until someone pins him into a corner and then he calls the dogs off by making a quick positive comment. Then he'll go back to bitching and moaning. He's a crotchety old woman.

We're one of two major conference teams with a losing record and we're coming off three straight NCAA tournament appearances. Our 4 wins have came against #317, #345, #332 and #299 in KenPom. Sorry I'm not pumping sunshine.
 
I don't know how good he will end up, he's looked good against bad teams. You can't just look at this season like you've proved something after one game. A few days ago you thought you had me proved wrong about Bohannon and then he looked terrible last night. Guess what, at some point all the guys I've been worried about are going to look great some games and terrible others. Ellingson was 12-16 in one week from 3 earlier this year, are you going around telling all of the people who said he should transfer that they were wrong?


The point is that this team is really young. What you just said is a perfect example. They are going to struggle some games and look good the next. Guess what that means? It means they are young! That's what happens. They have to find some consistency. That usually doesn't happen overnight with most players. That's why there's no reason to overreact one way or the other about this team. They are rebuilding. They are getting experience. Clearly there is going to be some major bumps in the road this year. Might as well brace for it instead of venting every single time it happens.
 
I don't know how good he will end up, he's looked good against bad teams. You can't just look at this season like you've proved something after one game. A few days ago you thought you had me proved wrong about Bohannon and then he looked terrible last night. Guess what, at some point all the guys I've been worried about are going to look great some games and terrible others. Ellingson was 12-16 in one week from 3 earlier this year, are you going around telling all of the people who said he should transfer that they were wrong?

How can you even say this, when you are the one who made blanket statements about Bohannon BEFORE HE FREAKING PLAYED A GAME. Oh yeah, because he "wasn't athletic", ooops I forgot, that was why you could make blanket statements, and run a kid into the ground for a year now.

I completely understand that you can't make judgements about a kid after a game, that is the point I'm trying to prove with your stupid ass. You made blanket judgements on a kid because of a "recruiting rank" and an assumption that he wasn't "athletic". I told you to at least let the kid play about a dozen different times......now you wanna lecture me, you wanna lecture others about "pre judging" a kid before all games are played.

Dude you are a joke. Just keep up the hate, keep up the bashing, and keep showing everyone that you are a Clown troll.
 
That Patton kid for Creighton red-shirted last season and is gonna be a lottery pick when he comes out. All of this is so stupid, this is a young team that's gonna take it's lumps but it's bustling over with talent and it's a lot of fun to watch and think about the future. Iowa is one of the least experienced team's in all college basketball this season after being one of the most experienced last season - you don't think this early playing time is eventually going to pay dividends in the future?
 
The point is that this team is really young. What you just said is a perfect example. They are going to struggle some games and look good the next. Guess what that means? It means they are young! That's what happens. They have to find some consistency. That usually doesn't happen overnight with most players. That's why there's no reason to overreact one way or the other about this team. They are rebuilding. They are getting experience. Clearly there is going to be some major bumps in the road this year. Might as well brace for it instead of venting every single time it happens.

Why are we so young? Did Fran not know we were graduating an imporant senior class?
 
This is what he does. He bitches and moans until someone pins him into a corner and then he calls the dogs off by making a quick positive comment. Then he'll go back to bitching and moaning. He's a crotchety old woman.

I just like exposing him. The funny thing is he thinks people don't see him for what he is.......but they do.
 
How can you even say this, when you are the one who made blanket statements about Bohannon BEFORE HE FREAKING PLAYED A GAME. Oh yeah, because he "wasn't athletic", ooops I forgot, that was why you could make blanket statements, and run a kid into the ground for a year now.

I completely understand that you can't make judgements about a kid after a game, that is the point I'm trying to prove with your stupid ass. You made blanket judgements on a kid because of a "recruiting rank" and an assumption that he wasn't "athletic". I told you to at least let the kid play about a dozen different times......now you wanna lecture me, you wanna lecture others about "pre judging" a kid before all games are played.

Dude you are a joke. Just keep up the hate, keep up the bashing, and keep showing everyone that you are a Clown troll.

Bohannon said he wasn't athletic and that's fine but when I say it I'm a troll. haha
 
Why are we so young? Did Fran not know we were graduating an imporant senior class?

I'm sure he didn't know that. I'm sure he was shocked when found out. I'm sure he didn't even try to get anyone else to come on board. He was probably just like "Awww shucks man. I wish I would have spoke to Hawk5656 a long time ago. He would have made me twice the coach I am today!".
 
I'm sure he didn't know that. I'm sure he was shocked when found out. I'm sure he didn't even try to get anyone else to come on board. He was probably just like "Awww shucks man. I wish I would have spoke to Hawk5656 a long time ago. He would have made me twice the coach I am today!".

He made a lot of mistakes on the recruiting trail that put us in this position so the whole excuse of being young, while it is true, could have been avoided some and that is on Fran. There's a big difference from being an NIT team and being what we are now which is probably a Lickliter type squad when it comes to W/L which is unacceptable in my opinion
 
He made a lot of mistakes on the recruiting trail that put us in this position so the whole excuse of being young, while it is true, could have been avoided some and that is on Fran. There's a big difference from being an NIT team and being what we are now which is probably a Lickliter type squad when it comes to W/L which is unacceptable in my opinion

mistakes on the recruiting trail - lol - listen to yourself.
 
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