Oh Jesus, really?????????????????? (see duplicate thread soon to be posted)
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Joshbrown
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Why did you delete your post saying that the police are the real threat to civil society?
HawkGold
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So civilian lives and widows taken are not worth as much? Seriously?
Using your analysis, to the civilian family. "He sort of matched the robbery suspect. I was afraid for my life. Better his than mine". OK, I get it.
HawkGold
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No, you don't know that he fine because you were. PTSD works differently for different people. You are also reading into his statement. He was not letting them off the hook at all.
You are in fact doing what is wrong in the country. You are trivializing lives. Changes do in fact need to be made.
kicker22
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I see some of what your saying, but see no difference between that and people playing dumb to protect a criminal or not wanting to give any information to the police. I live in a place where crime continually get's worse and ironically in the areas that need the most policing, and the largest amount of crime is occurring, no one seems to see or know anything during an investigation and remain quiet protecting their own.
IMO its not a police issue, It's not a criminal issue. Its not a race issue. It's an issue about community's working together to bring the community back together and finding a ways to make things better.
MelroseHawkins
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kicker22
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I should also add that I don't buy the fact that the majority of the "good cops" are shielding the "bad cops" from accountability. I think the majority of those that get into law enforcement do it to make society a better place and to help people. Sure you have a few that got in it for the wrong reasons, but I simply don't believe they all shield the "bad ones".
ArvadaHawk
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I am not trivializing anything. My statements were based on common sense. The main purpose of the police is to protect ALL citizens from harm. That means they have to chase and capture the bad guys. When a crime is literally in progress, the police can only use the information they have at hand. In this case it was a description of the bank robber: "large black man wearing all black with something on his head." HG, this happened within 2 minutes of the robbery call and 1 block from the robbery. Common sense tells us that you simply cannot disregard those facts.
So for those of you that feel he was 'approached' wrong... How should he have been? I mean exactly what do the arm chair police here feel the correct way to approach a possible armed bank robber that doesn't respond to verbal commands initially is? If anything this sounds like the text book way of how to handle it. Sure Faith was guilty of being at he wrong place at the wrong time. People are guilty of no less than that all the time with far worse out comes. Did Faith mention what the races/genders of the 4 officers are? Not that it should matter at all I'm just curious. Next question to me that's far more relevant than all this is have they caught the real guy yet?
I am very sorry Faith got caught up in that situation, but the people who think the police should approach an armed robbery suspect, and that's what he was at the time, like he was suspected of spitting on the sidewalk are BSC.
You guys are missing the point. The police better make sure they have good information before they go drawing their weapons on innocent civilians. The suspect was a black man in black clothing doesn't cut it, especially in Iowa city where iowa students wear their team colors regularly (how unusual for a football player to be wearing black). With our technology, they could have had a pic of the guy in a matter of moments and sent to their phones, but even without that, the suspect looked nothing like Faith and it was hotter than hell on the 20th, so I doubt if Faith was walking around in a hooded sweatshirt.....Does he look anything like this guy except that he has darker skin? His skin isn't anywhere near as dark as Faith's, but like I said, all black men look the same don't they...Good greif...YOU BETTER KNOW WHO YOU ARE LOOKING FOR BEFORE YOU DRAW YOU WEAPON ON AN INNOCENT CIVILIAN...No excuse for this incident.....
Oh, and I can recognize someone playing Pokemon go in a second, but what do I know, I haven't had the 'crack' training that these geniuses have....and there lies part of the problem...they 'purposely' hire 'lower achievers' who will follow orders and 'crack heads'...They don't want any intelligent people who can think for themselves.
trj
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We are all guilty of this, including you. It is the world we live in today. When was the last time you said: "I got this wrong" or better yet "I don't know".
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops
"A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
You are so full of BS it's coming out your ears. If the boogie man comes creeping into your house. We all know who you're going to call. Then you'll bitch your ass off if they don't get there fast enough and catch him in 5 minutes. You wouldn't make a pimple on most police officer's ass so you can take that low achiever BS and shove it up yours. If you had to confront some of the life long criminals that a lot these police officers have to face you would turn tail and run like the self serving little man baby you are.
I thank the Spaghetti Monster every day that police officers like those 5 POs in IC are standing between me and the criminals that would take advantage of man babies like you if you were a police officer. And if the boogie man comes to your house we all know who you are gonna call too.
BigD
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I am sure the police in Ames are very uncomfortable now. Any grossly over weight 350 pound guy with a dumb look on their face has to be thinking all they have to do is put on red clothing and they could rob any bank in Ames and never be detected as they calmly slumber down the sidewalk.
Ames Dispatch: "Attention all available officers we have a report of a bank robbery in the downtown area. The suspect is described as a white male approximately 5'8" to 5'9" tall and weighing about 375 pounds. Suspect is wearing dirty baggy blue jeans and wearing a torn red shirt with gold writing on the shirt. Suspect was believed to be carrying a Twinkie in his hand. Use extreme caution!!!" "Dispatch this is car 3412 and I have suspect in site.......no wait........pause........ Oh my God the suspects are everywhere!"
Ames Dispatch: "Attention all available officers we have a report of a bank robbery in the downtown area. The suspect is described as a white male approximately 5'8" to 5'9" tall and weighing about 375 pounds. Suspect is wearing dirty baggy blue jeans and wearing a torn red shirt with gold writing on the shirt. Suspect was believed to be carrying a Twinkie in his hand. Use extreme caution!!!" "Dispatch this is car 3412 and I have suspect in site.......no wait........pause........ Oh my God the suspects are everywhere!"
Wow, you've got me pegged, Barney...With your powers of deduction, you must be a cop, LOL. Listen sonny, I served in the 101st Airborne inf. and was in Afghanistan and Iraq so I've faced more than most cops and certainly more than you. If somebody 'creeped' into my house, I certainly wouldn't call the cops and no one would ever find the body. Law enforcemnt will be glad to know they have someone of your mentality and maturity standing up for them , lol. When you learn a little something about the world, get back to me, otherwise save your 'outbursts' for someone of your own 'level'.
