hawkfarmer
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A lot of starting pitchers out there too. The ones that seemed serious (Detroit) are making moves. I wouldn't be surprised if we get disappointed.
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A lot of starting pitchers out there too. The ones that seemed serious (Detroit) are making moves. I wouldn't be surprised if we get disappointed.
Exactly, which is why the Cubs aren't going to give him away for nothing. Once Dempster realizes the Dodgers move isn't happening, he'll accept the trade to the Braves.
Right now, the Yankees, Red Sox, Rangers, Dodgers, and Braves all need starting pitching. At worst, the Cubs have the #3 and #4 starters on the market behind Greinke and Hamels and it's far from a lock either of them get traded. I liked the Atlanta deal as a Cub fan, but it wasn't such a good deal that another team couldn't match it.
MisterLucky
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Dang! If Samardzija doesn't fall asleep for a second and covers first base on the one hit he gave up, he may have had a chance to go back out there in the ninth inning going for his first no-hitter. In any event, it was a nice outing that the Cubs really needed against a contending Pirate team (seems odd to write).
ssckelley
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Yes, it is widely known that the Braves leaked the story. Dempster is a 10/5 guy so he has earned the right to approve or reject any trade. His first preference is to be traded to the Dodgers, if the deal cannot get done then the Braves is another possibility. The bottom line is the deal should have never gotten leaked to the media as now he is being made to look like the bad guy.
If I am the Cubs I am in no hurry to trade Dempster. The worst case scenario is the Cubs keep him, make him a qualifying offer in the off season, and when he signs somewhere else the Cubs get an extra draft pick.
ssckelley
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This is not true, he is unhappy how this deal got leaked out to the media before he approved it and I don't blame him. Now Dempster looks like the bad guy and has everyone ****** off at him. Being a 10/5 guy gives a player the rare power to control where they end up, if he wants to be a Dodger then we cannot blame him for not accepting the Braves deal.
superfan12
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Honest question, and not being a Braves home here, but what does LA have that ATL doesn't?
Hawkfromnorwalk
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A beach. People without southern accents.
woodyk1
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superfan12
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Baseball team wise?
ssckelley
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Evidently he is friends with Ted Lily plus he mentioned he has family in Vancouver so he wants his family to be on the west coast. But as a 10/5 guy it doesn't matter if he just prefers the uniform color, this is one of the rare times that the player actually has power in a situation like this.
MisterLucky
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Another nice outing for Maholm tonight. That makes five straight wins. He may wind up with his first winning record in a full season if he keeps this up. One thing you can say for him, he always answers the bell. Never had less than 26 starts in a season.
BILLBUCKNER
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I hope the Pirates win the division. I wish we could have beat the Cards and lost to the Pirates to help them.
MisterLucky
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I know what you're saying , bill, but the Cubs lose enough without wishing for more. They turn right around and get the Cards at home so maybe they can make amends for last weekend.
MisterLucky
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I see that the Marlins traded Hanley Ramirez to the Dodgers this morning. They also gave the Dodgers a pitcher, Randy Choate. In return, they got a starter, Nathan Eovaldi and minor-league right-hander Scott McGough. Wonder how that may affect a Dempster to LA trade.
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Atlanta moving on. Dodgers deal not close. Cubs plan on keeping him, making qualifying offer for draft compensation, and moving on.
I have to admit, this whole deal has really caused me to sour a little on Dempster. He said a week and a half ago ATL would be a place he'd go, but LAD was first on his list. Deal in place w/ ATL, he doesn't accept so they move on. He's being a selfish DB right now. Sure, he's earned the right to pick and choose given his 10-5 rights, but don't say one thing and do the complete opposite.
The whole thing stinks.
I have to admit, this whole deal has really caused me to sour a little on Dempster. He said a week and a half ago ATL would be a place he'd go, but LAD was first on his list. Deal in place w/ ATL, he doesn't accept so they move on. He's being a selfish DB right now. Sure, he's earned the right to pick and choose given his 10-5 rights, but don't say one thing and do the complete opposite.
The whole thing stinks.
This is posturing IMO. The Dodgers were getting cocky and this is a move designed to show them that while they do have some leverage, they don't have all of it.
BILLBUCKNER
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I completely agree..Epstein kept him in the loop and put together a good deal. My opinion of Demp has sure changed. The Cubs must feel that a compensetary pick is better than the crap the Dodgers are offering. Either way it appears Demp won't be a Cub after this year.
