No way Paterno survives this if he knew.
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HawkeyeMHA
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i totally agree. this can ruin a persons life...
Pardon me but that is absolutely the stupidest thing I have ever read. You're telling me you would be able to stand there, watch a child being raped and WALK OUT? And then go to your dad and ask what to do? Bullsh*t. If you have any decency, any moral fiber, any anything, you would grab that child and go directly to the police. The fact that he didn't is almost as vile as what the DC is being charged with. MM knowingly left a child in direct danger because he was more worried about his own job and the PSU football program. It's disgusting and unconscionable. If he doesn't fry then I hope he has to live with those images and knowing that he behaved in the most cowardly way possible.
PJHawk
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And the plot thickens. Paterno has moved into CYA mode and per his statement released today he is now throwing current WR coach and then graduate assistant and eye witness Mike Mcqueary under the bus. In eyes of public perception of his actions regarding this scandal Joe failed miserably and he knows it:
"....It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the Grand Jury report."
"....It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the Grand Jury report."
"As my grand jury testimony stated, I was informed in 2002 by an assistant coach that he had witnessed an incident in the shower of our locker room facility. It was obvious that the witness was distraught over what he saw, but he at no time related to me the very specific actions contained in the grand jury report."
This is the full quote. If MM was clearly distraught, one of them should have called the police. Preferrably MM (after putting Sandusky's head through a wall and after making sure the kid was out of danger).
This is the full quote. If MM was clearly distraught, one of them should have called the police. Preferrably MM (after putting Sandusky's head through a wall and after making sure the kid was out of danger).
big10fan
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yeah, he was distraught because they were high-fiveing ... what did he think they were doing. or didn't he care to ask. i just don't buy it.
theole12
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"almost as vile"? Are you ******* kidding me?
PJHawk
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Here's what the GJ report says and now per the Paterno statement today he is in essence saying he didn't know - WTF?
"Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assistant report at his home, Paterno testified that the GA was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley, PSU AD to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the GA has seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building shower fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.
"Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assistant report at his home, Paterno testified that the GA was very upset. Paterno called Tim Curley, PSU AD to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the GA has seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building shower fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.
FalseMirage
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"yeah Curley MM is distraught about something he says he saw I don't know what it was but thought I'd let you know about it anyway."
Doesn't quite make sense.
Doesn't quite make sense.
PJHawk
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Now this is just getting f8cking absurd - per the NY times article today the Paternos want us to believe Joe never knew that Sandusky was investigated by the State College police department in 1998 for taking showers with litttle boys:
"Scott Paterno said on Sunday that his father had not been aware of the 1998 investigation. If he had been, Scott Paterno suggested, his father would have acted differently when he learned of the episode in 2002.
“Speaking on behalf of the family, if Joe had knowledge in ’98, it’s impossible for us to conceive that he wouldn’t have remembered that in 2002,” Scott Paterno said. “Anytime he has been questioned whether he had prior knowledge to 2002, he’s answered the same way every time.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/s...ocus-on-how-paterno-reacted.html?pagewanted=3
"Scott Paterno said on Sunday that his father had not been aware of the 1998 investigation. If he had been, Scott Paterno suggested, his father would have acted differently when he learned of the episode in 2002.
“Speaking on behalf of the family, if Joe had knowledge in ’98, it’s impossible for us to conceive that he wouldn’t have remembered that in 2002,” Scott Paterno said. “Anytime he has been questioned whether he had prior knowledge to 2002, he’s answered the same way every time.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/s...ocus-on-how-paterno-reacted.html?pagewanted=3
I had the misfortune of reading part of what he saw so, yes, almost as vile. He saw a 10 year old boy being raped in a shower and he turned around and left. He did NOTHING to stop it. He didn't make sure the boy was safe. Nothing. In my opinion, that makes him pretty fing vile.
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VintageHawkeye
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I officially hate joe paterno and penn state. All of 'em. Simply vile. Sandusky needs to die a painful death RIGHT NOW.
PJHawk
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Vin I'm of the same mindset - here's a post from the PSU scout site that really puts this in perspective from what Mike Mc"queery" witnessed:
A 28-year-old man witnesses a 58-year-old man sodomizing a 10-year-old, and LEAVING is acceptable behavior? Give me a break. McQueary should have beat the crap out of the naked Sandusky and whisked the kid off to the police, safe and sound. Instead, he LEFT? I guarantee you I would not have done that. Guess I"m a "blow hard." McQueary was a coward.
SwirlinLingerie
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Seems like a lot of people might rise up to protect Paterno and his image at all costs here...kind of betting we'll start to read quotes, factual or not, about lapses in Paterno's memory, his confusion at times, and his general separation from the daily workings of his program.
JonDMiller
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I can promise you if I witness an assault on a child, either physical or sexual in nature, I am gonna do something about it right then and there. And have done so in the past.
But of a sexual nature? It's going to get stopped and then the police are going to get called.
To report it to the coach, or anyone not in the police, is just another example of the insular nature of athletic program thinking on the macro. And for Paterno not to advise the GA to call the police, or to call the police himself? No excuse at all. None.
For all of the good that Paterno has done, and he has done a lot of it, this is going to be an enormous and inescapable smudge on his record...and deservedly so, at the least.
My guess is most Penn Staters are freaking enraged over this...not talking about just the message board goers.
But of a sexual nature? It's going to get stopped and then the police are going to get called.
To report it to the coach, or anyone not in the police, is just another example of the insular nature of athletic program thinking on the macro. And for Paterno not to advise the GA to call the police, or to call the police himself? No excuse at all. None.
For all of the good that Paterno has done, and he has done a lot of it, this is going to be an enormous and inescapable smudge on his record...and deservedly so, at the least.
My guess is most Penn Staters are freaking enraged over this...not talking about just the message board goers.
Going back to the GA walking in and walking back out. What in the hell does that do to that poor kid. It's enough for him to know one screwed up adult would hurt him. What does it say to him when another adult walks in, sees what's happening and then walks back out the door and lets the kid fend for himself. My God, that poor child...
