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Missing Link to Next Level
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kameltoez102
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The biggest thing for Iowa getting to the next level I think is already in place. As much as I bitch about KF I think he does a pretty good job with what he has and some of the unique challenges with our school. Maybe he could be a better recruiter but it is hard to say without seeing someone else try and do it. Maybe his play calling isn't always the best or you do not believe in his strategy but he has been successful with it. As for development we are one of the tops in the nations, but we are a developmental program with our style of offense and our recruiting base. Facilities we are in the upper third of our conference. Fan Base we are very solid. So we have a lot of good things going our way.
The thing that hurts us is when we we do develop or bring in a talented kid here or there that becomes a really good college player they leave and with how the program is set-up we cannot absorb that loss in a short period of time. Take this year for example, what if Jackson and Daniels came back it would have been a big upgrade from what we had playing this year and especially on the OL which would have offered some better flexibility. Jackson playing would have helped against the Purdues and the Penn States. What if Fant and Hockenson leave, do we have kids close to their talent right now waiting in the wings?
The Blue Bloods stay good because they are able to bring in the talent to consistently re-load and the losses for injury, going pro etc don't hurt them as bad. Is there a difference in coaching, of course but is it THAT MUCH better, I don't know? All I know is that the amount of guys that Iowa is able to produce that go to the next level shows we have some pretty competent people running the program. We may not always agree with them but it isn't the simple statement of saying there needs to be a change because there are so many variables. Iowa being able to keep guys for 4-5 years has always been important going back to Hayden. Wasn't it true at one point that no 5th year senior under Hayden had not gone to the Rose Bowl? I think if kids stayed in school 2009 and 2010 could have been really awesome years for Iowa football but again even so would that have been enough to sustain us over several years?
The thing that hurts us is when we we do develop or bring in a talented kid here or there that becomes a really good college player they leave and with how the program is set-up we cannot absorb that loss in a short period of time. Take this year for example, what if Jackson and Daniels came back it would have been a big upgrade from what we had playing this year and especially on the OL which would have offered some better flexibility. Jackson playing would have helped against the Purdues and the Penn States. What if Fant and Hockenson leave, do we have kids close to their talent right now waiting in the wings?
The Blue Bloods stay good because they are able to bring in the talent to consistently re-load and the losses for injury, going pro etc don't hurt them as bad. Is there a difference in coaching, of course but is it THAT MUCH better, I don't know? All I know is that the amount of guys that Iowa is able to produce that go to the next level shows we have some pretty competent people running the program. We may not always agree with them but it isn't the simple statement of saying there needs to be a change because there are so many variables. Iowa being able to keep guys for 4-5 years has always been important going back to Hayden. Wasn't it true at one point that no 5th year senior under Hayden had not gone to the Rose Bowl? I think if kids stayed in school 2009 and 2010 could have been really awesome years for Iowa football but again even so would that have been enough to sustain us over several years?
Northside Hawk
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Cowherd is always looking for a reason to diss Iowa. Maybe he decided to go "reverse psychology" on Stanley, knowing that it would get in his head.
Stanley has thrown 49 TD's in two not quite complete seasons. That's pretty good. But I can probably name half a dozen of the top of my head he missed this year alone. By rushing his mechanics.
Northside Hawk
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Stanley is on pace to break the school record for passing TD's. But by the poster's account we have no game breakers or playmakers, a QB that can't throw accurately over ten yards and an OC that has no business having the job.
I can think of a hundred hobbies that would be more fulfilling then trolling message boards, but hey, whatever floats his boat.
THIS! Iowa 's lack of game planning and scheming to attack an opponents weakness is glaring. At this level, you cannot just "do what we do" and expect to compete against the best teams. Aiso, coaching 101 says to play your best players and feature them.
lightning1
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I'm in agreement with you here. And this really is my rub with KF. I believe KF has some great coaches on his staff. Top shelf position coaches that teach and develop players. But I also believe that KF has a few sub par coaches on his staff. Coaches that need to be either replaced or moved to a more suitable position. So, while it IS the coaching that allows us to be slightly better than .500, in spite of our sub .500 talent. It's also the coaches that keep us from getting to that next level. KF is loyal to a fault. Now that family is involved, he's just making bad decisions.
lightning1
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We have a QB that can't throw accurately. He's not wrong about that. He can hit targets inside of 10 yards well enough. He can't hit the broad side of a barn much further out than that.
Northside Hawk
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I commented earlier this morning. Wisconsin, who had national championship aspirations in the preseason, just completed a crash and burn that put ours to shame, culminating with taking a crap on their home field and losing their beloved Axe. Now it will be interesting to see how they react, because I clearly believe some of this is on the coaching. Will Chryst make the necessary changes? His boss certainly would have.
Northside Hawk
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Its maddening, isn't it? You see him on a good day and you wonder how we ever lose. Then you see him, at least once a game, miss a wide open Fant or Hockansen and miss a certain TD opportunity.
lightning1
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I don't necessarily believe it's coaching, on Wisconsin's part. I think that the pre-season poll pundits ranked Wisconsin based on the past decade of success reloading. Well, replacing 8 starters on last season's defense was a little too much to overcome, IMO.
proudhawkfan21
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I think BF did a very nice job this year, creative play-calling, while keeping KF stamp on things
proudhawkfan21
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My point exactly. He wasnt committed. Thank you for making my point. Never was a Hawkeye. Never was going to be. We arent "missing" him, missing out, woulda coulda shoulda, because he was never coming here.
proudhawkfan21
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I guess we can take down the Wisconsin comparisons. 7-5. They should fire Chryst.A Minnesota beatdown?
lightning1
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That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Stanley just not being an accurate passer past 10 yards. Even when he completes a throw further than 10 yards, 90% of them the WR/TE has to adjust to catch the pass. Behind them, or reach way up high, or dive to catch the ball. Very rarely does he put the pass on the numbers. Even when he's not under pressure. I'm not sure what the problem is, as I am not a QB coach. I know what a QB's mechanics are, in a basic sense. I'm not going to bother trying to figure out the hows and whys of his errant throws. I'm guessing it's all mental.
lightning1
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It's not just BF. But BF is part of the problem. KF is willing to let his son learn on the job, at the expense of the success of the Iowa football program. That's a dick move. To compound that dick move, he hired an OC to help his son, and made him an OL coach, at the expense of the Iowa football program. Our STs coach is a former player that's not getting the job done either. That's where his loyalties are hurting the Iowa football program.
That's how I see it anyway.
Northside Hawk
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Overdue for a correction? It's possible. Can't argue against it.
I like the analogy you made in the post about staff loyalty. It's hits a bullseye on something that I've known is there but haven't been quite able to put my finger on. Kirk's staff loyalty is his biggest asset and biggest albatross at the same time. Kirk is like a baseball pitcher who is always in the strike zone, always ahead of hitters, but sometimes gets lit up because he doesn't have the wipeout pitch to put the batter away. It's a decent analogy to how he coaches.
proudhawkfan21
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ST's hurts us? Where? Lol Even the punting game wasnt bad. KO ret and punt ret were fine with the exception of WI game. Point me to the ways in which ST's were bad. Highest scoring offense since 2002 i think i heard. Save a QB who choked big time 3-4 games this year....i dont see a ton of blame to go around. Sometimes things dont go your way. PSU was a fluke. Tried calling TO, ref blew it. Other close games went against us. Lack of a dynamic RB and an O-line that isnt quite as good as we think it is. Still anchored by two Sophs. Watch next year. Watch.
lightning1
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I just think 8 starters from a top 10 defense is too much to overcome for almost any program, not named Alabama or Ohio State. Sooner or later Wisconsin was not going to be able to reload. They dont recruit well enough.
lightning1
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STs lost us the Wisconsin game.
lightning1
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I'll watch next year. Care to place a friendly wager on next year's win/loss record? What is your prediction?
