Missing Link to Next Level

[hawkeyebob62]

What's up, tough guy?

You don't wanna know.

 

[HuckFinn]

The biggest thing for Iowa getting to the next level I think is already in place. As much as I bitch about KF I think he does a pretty good job with what he has and some of the unique challenges with our school. Maybe he could be a better recruiter but it is hard to say without seeing someone else try and do it. Maybe his play calling isn't always the best or you do not believe in his strategy but he has been successful with it. As for development we are one of the tops in the nations, but we are a developmental program with our style of offense and our recruiting base. Facilities we are in the upper third of our conference. Fan Base we are very solid. So we have a lot of good things going our way.

The thing that hurts us is when we we do develop or bring in a talented kid here or there that becomes a really good college player they leave and with how the program is set-up we cannot absorb that loss in a short period of time. Take this year for example, what if Jackson and Daniels came back it would have been a big upgrade from what we had playing this year and especially on the OL which would have offered some better flexibility. Jackson playing would have helped against the Purdues and the Penn States. What if Fant and Hockenson leave, do we have kids close to their talent right now waiting in the wings?

The Blue Bloods stay good because they are able to bring in the talent to consistently re-load and the losses for injury, going pro etc don't hurt them as bad. Is there a difference in coaching, of course but is it THAT MUCH better, I don't know? All I know is that the amount of guys that Iowa is able to produce that go to the next level shows we have some pretty competent people running the program. We may not always agree with them but it isn't the simple statement of saying there needs to be a change because there are so many variables. Iowa being able to keep guys for 4-5 years has always been important going back to Hayden. Wasn't it true at one point that no 5th year senior under Hayden had not gone to the Rose Bowl? I think if kids stayed in school 2009 and 2010 could have been really awesome years for Iowa football but again even so would that have been enough to sustain us over several years?

This is really a good analysis. You won't get replies from the KF haters because your error is that it makes sense.

 

[lightning1]

Geno Smith and Hooker plus all CB's return, Hesse was great, Epenesa is better. Hockaday is easily replaceable. Nelson is the only loss. Good depth there. Defense essentially replaces 1 true starter lost based on this season as a whole.

Easley, avg at best. Definitely need younger guys to step up at WR. But Id say a couple took steps forward. Maintain at worst, predict improved. OL will probably have 0 all-big 10 this year. All replacement level after our tackles. Very talented younger players will step up as ready.

Gervase, Nelson, Render, Hesse. Losses, great Hawkeyes. None blue chip, big time losses with the talent at the positions they are leaving.

Stanley will be the difference.....up or down. Its 90% on Stanley next year. The rest of the puzzle is there. Same as this year. Stanley steps up, we win 10 or 11 minimum. Next year, we are in better position, and its still up to Stanley. I think 9 win minimum in spite of 2018 possibly showing up.

Not so willing to bet money on it? I don't blame you. I don't think there's any chance we get to 9 wins next season. Not with our schedule and talent losses.

 

[HuckFinn]

I commented earlier this morning. Wisconsin, who had national championship aspirations in the preseason, just completed a crash and burn that put ours to shame, culminating with taking a crap on their home field and losing their beloved Axe. Now it will be interesting to see how they react, because I clearly believe some of this is on the coaching. Will Chryst make the necessary changes? His boss certainly would have.

The worm turns in football. WI fans (I live here) have already been on board with firing the head man. New generation of "fans" are like our society as a whole: Everything has to be perfect and right now.

 

[tksirius]

Take out KF's first two rebuilding years, the last 18 yrs we avg 8.17 wins per year. The 7-5 myth is a myth. 81 wins in the past 10 yrs, 8.1 for you math majors. Anyone who says we avg 7-5 should be junk punched.

All games count the last i checked.

 

[HuckFinn]

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Stanley just not being an accurate passer past 10 yards. Even when he completes a throw further than 10 yards, 90% of them the WR/TE has to adjust to catch the pass. Behind them, or reach way up high, or dive to catch the ball. Very rarely does he put the pass on the numbers. Even when he's not under pressure. I'm not sure what the problem is, as I am not a QB coach. I know what a QB's mechanics are, in a basic sense. I'm not going to bother trying to figure out the hows and whys of his errant throws. I'm guessing it's all mental.

Have you been to any games? Have you watched them or are you too busy tailgating? Geez.

 

[lightning1]

Have you been to any games? Have you watched them or are you too busy tailgating? Geez.

I watched every one but Illinois. Your point is?

 

[HawksMN]

The whole team has small issues, from the coaching staff on down, that summed up as a whole, will not allow for a championship type season.

 

[HuckFinn]

It's not just BF. But BF is part of the problem. KF is willing to let his son learn on the job, at the expense of the success of the Iowa football program. That's a dick move. To compound that dick move, he hired an OC to help his son, and made him an OL coach, at the expense of the Iowa football program. Our STs coach is a former player that's not getting the job done either. That's where his loyalties are hurting the Iowa football program.
That's how I see it anyway.

Thanks. More evidence that you have not watched Iowa play this year. Our special teams are so much better than the last couple of years. Kick off returns are near the top in the country, and it is not all about a talented returner. Some trick plays have been installed and used successfully. Our kick off and punt coverage have been stellar. Our field goal kicker is excellent. Extra points are routine, as they should be. Yes, our punter is below average, but that is about recruiting, not the special teams coach. But, hey. Thanks for not knowing anything about ST's.

 

[HuckFinn]

I watched every one but Illinois. Your point is?

Sorry. I thought your poor analysis was easily explained, but I appreciate the correction.

 

[lightning1]

Thanks. More evidence that you have not watched Iowa play this year. Our special teams are so much better than the last couple of years. Kick off returns are near the top in the country, and it is not all about a talented returner. Some trick plays have been installed and used successfully. Our kick off and punt coverage have been stellar. Our field goal kicker is excellent. Extra points are routine, as they should be. Yes, our punter is below average, but that is about recruiting, not the special teams coach. But, hey. Thanks for not knowing anything about ST's.

Yeah, thanks for making huge leaps of idiot logic. Thanks for...nothing.

 

[lightning1]

Sorry. I thought your poor analysis was easily explained, but I appreciate the correction.

What poor analysis is that? That STs cost us the Wisconsin game??

 

[lightning1]

Thanks. More evidence that you have not watched Iowa play this year. Our special teams are so much better than the last couple of years. Kick off returns are near the top in the country, and it is not all about a talented returner. Some trick plays have been installed and used successfully. Our kick off and punt coverage have been stellar. Our field goal kicker is excellent. Extra points are routine, as they should be. Yes, our punter is below average, but that is about recruiting, not the special teams coach. But, hey. Thanks for not knowing anything about ST's.

Alright, I did some research and it appears you are correct. Our STs play has been really good outside of our punting and that 1 game against Wisconsin. I can admit when I'm wrong. The rest of my opinion on the offensive coaching staff, still stands. Fair enough?

 

[lightning1]

The worm turns in football. WI fans (I live here) have already been on board with firing the head man. New generation of "fans" are like our society as a whole: Everything has to be perfect and right now.

You equate Wisconsin fans wanting Cryst gone to Iowa fans after 20 years of KF?

 

[Northside Hawk]

I watched every one but Illinois. Your point is?

That you're getting older and needed an afternoon nap that day.

 

[lightning1]

That you're getting older and needed an afternoon nap that day.

I had a premonition about how that game was going to turn out..so the nap was an easy choice.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Alright, I did some research and it appears you are correct. Our STs play has been really good outside of our punting and that 1 game against Wisconsin. I can admit when I'm wrong. The rest of my opinion on the offensive coaching staff, still stands. Fair enough?

Special teams damn near cost us Nebraska as well. Thank God for Recinos, who had just missed from the same spot minutes earlier.

And obviously special teams hurt us against Wisconsin.

 

[tksirius]

Alright, I did some research and it appears you are correct. Our STs play has been really good outside of our punting and that 1 game against Wisconsin. I can admit when I'm wrong. The rest of my opinion on the offensive coaching staff, still stands. Fair enough?

Well, field goal kicking did drop down to 50th. I'm sure that was an effect of recruiting though.

 

[tksirius]

Special teams damn near cost us Nebraska as well. Thank God for Recinos, who had just missed from the same spot minutes earlier.

And obviously special teams hurt us against Wisconsin.

See, what happened is the miss was a recruiting error, but Woods coached him up after that and that's why he made the winning field goal.

 

[lightning1]

Well, field goal kicking did drop down to 50th. I'm sure that was an effect of recruiting though.

Kickers kick, punters punt. The only thing I'd put on the coaches here is allowing Ratstetter to wear an Iowa jersey. But money can buy KF, it seems. In more ways than we would have imagined.