Marcus Smart shoves a fan

Foval21 said:
Fans go out of their way to make it personal when they chant stuff at players. So it is a two way street both were wrong.
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Of course. That is my point. Should Aaron White fight OSU fans that chant "we didn't want you"?
 
HawkeyeWalker said:
You don't think so? That's fine. But both fans and athletes feel just a little to entitled these days....just my opinion.
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Society sucks period. It always has and it probably always will. I don't really see it as a sign that it's deteriorating more in that it's a sample of one of the many ****** things that has always happened.
 
bcl20 said:
Society sucks period. It always has and it probably always will. I don't really see it as a sign that it's deteriorating more in that it's a sample of one of the many ****** things that has always happened.
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Fans used to decide who lived and died in the arena. How's that for fanaticism.
 
HawkeyeWalker said:
The Romans??? You just skipped over a few centuries... lol. Its not about "morals"...its about lack of respect.

Fan should be banned if it was racial....smart should be suspended...
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no you said something about the decline of society or some dramatic stuff...

Which I really don't agree with... people really have always been the same.

But lets not get all philosophical here.
 
theboat said:
So you would teach your kids that if someone says something mean to you that they should fight?
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I guess you missed the 100 times I said Smart was wrong for pushing the guy...

You just seem to be really reluctant to give the fan any blame.

Which I find odd.
 
theboat said:
Because it happens all the time. Most aren't as weak minded as smart though. Smart could have made it about the fan, he chose not to.
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Now you have gone out of your way to make it personal to him. It is a high pressure situation, he is 19, and he is very stressed because his dreams of playing a second yr and winning are tumbling....guy isn't in a good place and he will be reprimanded....but because of money the other guy probably will have no repercussions. But keep on about smart being dumb.
 
bcl20 said:
Uh.....what?
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Bigtenchamp said:
no you said something about the decline of society or some dramatic stuff...

Which I really don't agree with... people really have always been the same.

But lets not get all philosophical here.
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Fair enough, it was unnecessary for me to state the society comment...it was overstating things a bit.

But if we're gonna stop with being dramatic...this board is gonna get quiet...especially after losses....:)
 
Foval21 said:
Now you have gone out of your way to make it personal to him. It is a high pressure situation, he is 19, and he is very stressed because his dreams of playing a second yr and winning are tumbling....guy isn't in a good place and he will be reprimanded....but because of money the other guy probably will have no repercussions. But keep on about smart being dumb.
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Poor guy. It's a shame that this has never happened to any other player ever, because if it had I am sure they would have all fought the fans.
 
theboat said:
Poor guy. It's a shame that this has never happened to any other player ever, because if it had I am suet they would have all fought the fans.
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Simple question boat - you think the fan should be able to say whatever he wants and face no reprimand?
 
Gotta love the mothership rushing to the defense of another athlete. Their 1st or 2nd tweet about the situation reported that an Ok St. broadcaster thought he heard Smart say that the guy called him a racial slur… Great journalism there.
 
Bigtenchamp said:
I guess you missed the 100 times I said Smart was wrong for pushing the guy...

You just seem to be really reluctant to give the fan any blame.

Which I find odd.
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Again. You don't read so good. This "fan" will be in every road arena that Smart plays in for the rest of his life. Smart has the ability to change his behavior, not every fan.

I look at it the exact same way as I would with my kids. You can't change the ******** in the world, but you can change how you deal with them. Smart himself admitted this.
 
theboat said:
Of course. That is my point. Should Aaron White fight OSU fans that chant "we didn't want you"?
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No but sometimes from a failure we can look for ways to improve instead of talking about the failure of the guy in the hardest position of anyone in the situation. You are making this about a 19 yr olds failure. Let's bring up your screw ups as a 19 yr old. I know smart will have a punishment will the fan? If he doesn't and you don't think he should that says a lot about d1 sports true agenda and you one sidedness.
 
bcl20 said:
Uh.....what?
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bcl20 said:
Society sucks period. It always has and it probably always will. I don't really see it as a sign that it's deteriorating more in that it's a sample of one of the many ****** things that has always happened.
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Maybr...College players pushing fans hasn't happened much to my knowledge. Again, if the guy said something racial...he's a p.o.s and should be banned indefinitely.
 
Bigtenchamp said:
Simple question boat - you think the fan should be able to say whatever he wants and face no reprimand?
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If you choose not to read my posts then stop asking me questions.

If smart stood up, stared at the fan and let the refs know what he thought he heard, the fan could have been dealt with in an appropriate manner. Instead he went for vigilante justice and made himself the story.
 
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