hawkdrummer1
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Your response sounds very reasoned HG. (though your Steve King reference is a bit of a give away). I'm referring more to the "instant outrage" crowd who just wait for an opportunity to go off about something.
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Your response sounds very reasoned HG. (though your Steve King reference is a bit of a give away). I'm referring more to the "instant outrage" crowd who just wait for an opportunity to go off about something.
HawkGold
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That is irrelevent. The number of people who would do such a thing even if offended is low. The what percentage of Hawk fans not tied to Hawk sports is engaged?
Still think he was yold not to do it or something similar.
HawkGold
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Ok but I as a registered republican I cant stand King. Not sure what Im giving away.
The analogy has been used a lot and has never been a problem. Dolph is the first to get in trouble over this particular one, so how should he have known better?
deanvogs
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Why should have Dolph know better? Players are called “King Kong”, “Beast”, “Animals” and many other things in a sporting context that wouldn’t normally be considered a complement, but when used in a sporting context ARE COMPLIMNETS, as @lightning1 said, context matters.
There isn’t a national outrage over this because even the PC police think there is no “here”, here. There was one single email sent about what he said, that is it, and even after all this you don’t even have groups that are specifically run to blow crap out of proportion jumping on this.
deanvogs
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This is exactly it, players have been referred to as Kong, King Kong, Beast, Animal, all sorts of things and they are compliments.
HawkGold
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We just disagree I guess.I eould know that one. I made a comment that I shouldnt have in college in front of a black student that I liked. The look on hurt on his face was real.
To some of us it seems easier to see.
HawkGold
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We disagree on use of the name. Over time I would guess my opinion would be more common. I do think he should have been aware and he might have or shoild have been cautioned.
mopkins
King Kong
So then by that logic the right thing for Barta/Leerfield to do would be to get Dolph and Bruno on the phone, have Dolph explain himself, have Bruno give his take on it...and if there's no offense taken then let it go.
However, for "some reason" they're deciding not to do that.
HawkGold
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No that would not be right. whether the player was offended or not is somewhat not relevent. An apology which he sort of did is good.
Somewhat different but it is not good to retraumatize victims by forcing the to talk to offenders. I doubt he was traumatized in the traditionsl sense. Likely at most it was not pleasant. But who knows.
HawkPrdatr40
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Go to Waterloo and play exactly what Dolph said with the Replay of Bruno’s tip in and don’t say a word and than ask if they heard anything offensive and 99.9% of all of them would say no!!!! Your to overly sensitized HawkGold and that’s a FACT....
This is Barta and Fran written all over it.. That’s also 100% fact...
HawkGold
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Your last comment likely but dependent on previous directive. The first maybe but for good reasons but not mor than u being insensitive. If I had to chose which to stay...Dolp over Barta. This is a right to work state and Barta has control.
If I had to bet ...they did have a directive.
1977Hawkeye
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Bottom line: If you're white, and you dare to even open your mouth to even attempt to compliment a minority.. ESPECIALLY if they are black.... WATCH OUT. Right or wrong, you're risking your career and reputation. It's safer just to say nothing.
People talk about equality.. But what's going on in this country feels more like revenge than anything else.
People talk about equality.. But what's going on in this country feels more like revenge than anything else.
ArvadaHawk
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king kong = fictitious character.
King Kong = 25 feet tall.
Ape = primate = not 25 feet tall
Tell me you just made that up as a joke and it's not real.
1977Hawkeye
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Some folks don't want to hear about those facts, lightning. It's more fun to be able to cry racism.
ArvadaHawk
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friend, i watched a progressive on tv spout those live. the subtlety is that it is a revision of history. kill two birds with one stone goes back to days of hunting as a predominant way to provide food. etc, etc, etc.
