shhhhh, this doesnt help the theory the cops were just out to get them. lol
Jewell Hampton and Jordan Bernstien Arrested
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shhhhh, this doesnt help the theory the cops were just out to get them. lol
FlyHawkJoe
Active Member
Wow, I'm seeing more reaction from the "don't overreact" crowd than from anyone else. Nobody's calling for them to be dismissed or sat down for 4 games, or anything close. They will get their fines, some community service (either from the court or from KF, or both), and 1-2 games. They've been around 2-3 years, they have had this beat into their heads since day 1. They should know better. That's why I'm thinking they might get 2 games vs just 1.
GoHawks24
Well-Known Member
This. I'm not saying that JB's incident was completely minor and that he should not have been arrested, but what if it is true that he really didn't derserve to be arrested? Guess I'm just holding out hope. Sorry for being so irrational and thinking that cops never have it out for anybody.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
It all depends on how it went down.
Jordan is old enough to drink and it isn't mid-season, so I don't have an issue w/ him downtown on a Friday night. It does matter on what happened and how much he "interfered" with the cops. Again, I can only assume he was trying to convince the cops that Jewel didn't do anything and they then took him in because he was under the influence.
GoHawks24
Well-Known Member
I'm not referring to Hampton. From everything I've heard it sounds like his arrest was justified. I'm just talking about JB's arrest. Did he get charged with interfering with official acts, too or just the public intox?
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
He interfered and because of the interference was arrested for pub intox.
gotcha. my take on JB is he was arrested for pub intox is because he did interfere.
RockSmokinHawk
Member
Again I don't exactly know what Hampton did to get arrested. But I did see everything after that. If JB had done anything to deserve getting arrested he would have been in cuffs along with Hampton. They simply asked when they could get their teammate out of jail and a couple of cops who problably only became cops so they could carry a gun and go on power trips handled it very poorly to say the least. I'm not saying that all IC police officers are bad or anything. But, just because you are friends with a few of them, doesn't mean there are lousy cops out there.
GoHawks24
Well-Known Member
Well I guess we'll see how things shake out. I'm just saying maybe he does have a good case, especially if the previous poster claiming that people actually called the police department to file claims that JB should not have been arrested are true. But then again, maybe he just being a nuisance and derserved it. I'm just a big proponent of innocent until proven guilty and obviously not a very big fan of law enforcement in general.
What the hell are you talking about? Did you read my post? Clearly this was an opinion. My opinion is this 100% on the players. And it is. I went to Iowa for 4 years and graduated. I still live in North Liberty and occasionally get downtown. So needless to say I've been to the bars a few times down there. I have never one time ever been confronted by a cop in downtown Iowa City. And that is because I'm not downtown getting into arguments, pi$$ing on the sidewalk, or acting like a jacka$$. It's really not that hard to stay out of trouble. So whatever punishment they get they deserve. 100% on the players, my proof is common sense.
DBorwig316
Well-Known Member
My better judgement tells me not to stir up this hornet's nest, but I can't help myself.
Why anyone says, "I'm not a fan of law enforcement", just bugs the living sh*t out of me. Who the hell is supposed to enforce them then. Are we to police ourselves? Gimme a break.
If people don't like to deal with law enforcement, I have some real solid advice to hand out to all of you...
STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSH*LES!
hawkdrummer1
Well-Known Member
Amen.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
Win.
Billso
Well-Known Member
Interesting post. If true, Bernstine may have a case here. Yes, he blew over the limit, but police generally cannot randomly stop people for testing, there has to be some probable cause/reasonable suspicion (not sure which one applies here) to check you. A credible witness to the officer's statement above would be very damaging to the prosecution. I've also not heard anyone backup the cops' claim of interference, and there were plenty of witnesses.
We'll see how this plays out. Of course it won't help Jordan at all with Kirk, as he shouldn't have been intoxicated period. Hampton, obviously, is a different story.
Yeah because cops would never target anybody on purpose..
My problem with law enforcement is there are unfortunately a large # of cops with huge ego's. Like the cop that came up to us at tailgating last year and without provocation at all and threatened to kick all of us out of the tailgating lot just because we were listening to music. The guy was a total dick. And the sad part is, my story is one of many. And it's always your word against theirs. Nothing you can do about it, but don't act like cops are saints, they are usually stupider less credible people than the average person, but their badge gives them elite status.
tm3308
Well-Known Member
There's a difference between "not being a fan of law enforcement" and "not being a fan of BAD, UNPROFESSIONAL law enforcement". Just playing devil's advocate on this one.
On another note, I was stopped this past fall on my way back to campus from my girlfriend's place at Kirkwood. Got to 1st Avenue in Coralville, and missed the speed limit sign. I thought I was in a 35, so I was doing 39. It was a 25. Got stopped (also wouldn't have happened if it hadn't been the Friday night of the Michigan weekend). The officer wanted to search my car because "he saw me drinking from a bottle". I don't drink at all, and I'd downed my Pepsi hours prior to this incident. He didn't see a bottle. I let them search the car because I didn't want any trouble and I knew they wouldn't find anything. But he had no probable cause to search the car.
ShadasRevenge
Well-Known Member
That isn't the argument Borwig was making, and you know it.
Ok people just settle down on the police, they have a very tough job to do. Now with that being said I have been on both sides of the law, one as a son to a police officer and as a military police officer myself. If the police are conducting an investigation let them go the course, it could be that JB was a person of interest in the bar fight. Now on the second part I use to own a bar in des moines and have been wrongfully ticketed for an afterhours when all people left by 2:02 am, and no one was drinking, the point of this is that every one should have been gone by 1 55am therefor making it impossible for them to ticket me. The judge took the word of the police officer(which I understand) even though he had no real evidence. If the judge doesnt take the officers word then the justice system will fail even if it is wrong sometimes(not talking about serious crimes)Speeding tickets and simple misdormeanors. People are not perfect and that go's for cops too. My whole point is they should have never been in that situation, they should have walked away and understood that they are people of high value, what I mean by that is they are local celeberties who are under a micro-scope. Its ok to go out and drink but when things go down, back down, leave or pay the piper. We all have done something in our life times, so they made a mistake ,they dont have a history of breaking the law, 1 game is all they will miss and then its behind them but please dont make that same mistake again as you may end up like Sapp did. Learn from this mistake and move on!!!! GO HAWKS
wartknight
Well-Known Member
IIRC, Bernstine had some law issues that blew up over the DSM airwaves last summer or the summer before. Not sure if that will have any bearing on the punishment he gets for this or not.
