ISU #4 in Preseason Polls?

deanvogs said:
No school has the amount of mass exodus that Fred has. I mean even schools that are imploding don't see players leave at this rate. Why is that, why do players leave ISU at 5x the rate as your average university. I mean are ISU players the only kids in the country who "want more playing time?" According to Clown logic, it is all just a massive coincidence, Freddie only kick Amari off the team, the rest all left, well, just cause.
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Absolutely garbage and not true. Are you freaking kidding me? I mean ISU isnt even the worst in the conference. Have you seen what is going on at K-State? And although Huggins is winning games, he has had a ton of players transfer out at WV the last few years. They've lost good players too. Kansas has had more guys leave than ISU also. For about the 100th time, the players leaving ISU(except for Amardi) are leaving for more playing time. When guys like Monte Morris and George Niang start transferring let me know!
 
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deadeyededric said:
Absolutely garbage and not true. Are you freaking kidding me? I mean ISU isnt even the worst in the conference. Have you seen what is going on at K-State? And although Huggins is winning games, he has had a ton of players transfer out at WV the last few years. They've lost good players too. Kansas has had more guys leave than ISU also. For about the 100th time, the players leaving ISU(except for Amardi) are leaving for more playing time. When guys like Monte Morris and George Niang start transferring let me know!
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Please post the number of transfers out for each school over the last five years. You've proven to be completely terrible at understanding what facts are in your previous posts so I'm going to assume you're
always wrong until you prove to be correct about a single thing.

also why would Fred force out good players? He's forcing out the crappy guys to bring in better players, you apparently don't understand how this works, which is not surprising.
 
deadeyededric said:
We are bringing back a good team. T.J. Otzelberger is 10x more valuable than Matt A. was. Iowa had guys transfer also, its 2015. We did lose out on Diallo, but got Nick Nostowiak who is better than anyone Iowa has coming in. And we have a coach that is is wanted by NBA teams. Yea life is terrible.
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Well, the coaching change being better or worse remains to be seen. Matt A was obviously the lead recruiter on Diallo; once Matt was gone so was Diallo.

And on paper Nick is a better player; he's a 4 star. However, wasn't Matt Thomas also a 4 star? Gesell and Woody were 4 stars as well. And Georges was a 3 star. Aaron W was a 3 star. Devon Marble was a 2 star. The ratings are a basis for the coaches but no one knows how much the players will develop physically and mentally.

Oh, and so you have a coach that is wanted by NBA teams. It wasn't so long ago that NFL teams wanted Ferentz.
 
Knight78 said:
Well, the coaching change being better or worse remains to be seen. Matt A was obviously the lead recruiter on Diallo; once Matt was gone so was Diallo.

And on paper Nick is a better player; he's a 4 star. However, wasn't Matt Thomas also a 4 star? Gesell and Woody were 4 stars as well. And Georges was a 3 star. Aaron W was a 3 star. Devon Marble was a 2 star. The ratings are a basis for the coaches but no one knows how much the players will develop physically and mentally.

Oh, and so you have a coach that is wanted by NBA teams. It wasn't so long ago that NFL teams wanted Ferentz.
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No question that when Matt A left so did our chances with Diallo which were probably pretty good until Matt left for New York. Diallo was probably only going to stay for one year and be gone anyway. I never thought he would end up in Ames anyway. I think T.J.'s resume speaks for itself compared to Matt's. Who knows about NN? He is definitely a heck of a ball player. Unless you have talent like Kentucky or Duke you would be nuts not to take a look at him if you had a scholly open. I don't know if Matt Thomas will ever get it together. He is certainly never going to be anything more than a role player anyway.
 
kaneisable50 said:
So say your claims about Fred are actually true...why do Hawk fans care so much about this?
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Say what? You are the dude who came over to a Hawk board and got his panties in a bunch about this, why do you care so much what Hawk fans think? Do you care this much when the talking heads at ESPN call you Transfer U?

It is pretty freaking obvious what is going on, but Clowns like you and deadeyedick just can't see the simple facts that are right in front of you.
 
deadeyededric said:
Absolutely garbage and not true. Are you freaking kidding me? I mean ISU isnt even the worst in the conference. Have you seen what is going on at K-State? And although Huggins is winning games, he has had a ton of players transfer out at WV the last few years. They've lost good players too. Kansas has had more guys leave than ISU also. For about the 100th time, the players leaving ISU(except for Amardi) are leaving for more playing time. When guys like Monte Morris and George Niang start transferring let me know!
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Let me know when K-State and Kansas hit 10+ transfers OUT, and let me know when they hit 12+ transfers INTO the program. Why would guys like Morris and Niang leave, Freddie boy ain't showing them the door (like the bench warmers), he his showing them the floor with playing time. Freddie turns over the ISU roster faster than a $10 Whore can turn out tricks.
 
deadeyededric said:
No question that when Matt A left so did our chances with Diallo which were probably pretty good until Matt left for New York. Diallo was probably only going to stay for one year and be gone anyway. I never thought he would end up in Ames anyway. I think T.J.'s resume speaks for itself compared to Matt's. Who knows about NN? He is definitely a heck of a ball player. Unless you have talent like Kentucky or Duke you would be nuts not to take a look at him if you had a scholly open. I don't know if Matt Thomas will ever get it together. He is certainly never going to be anything more than a role player anyway.
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LOLOLOLOL....you were NEVER, and I mean NEVER going to sign Vaughn last year, or Diallo this year. Even having a bag man like Matt A wasn't going to net you Diallo.
 
deanvogs said:
LOLOLOLOL....you were NEVER, and I mean NEVER going to sign Vaughn last year, or Diallo this year. Even having a bag man like Matt A wasn't going to net you Diallo.
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Iowa State has two transfer forwards coming in for visits this weekend. Neither one of them is highly rated. The cyclones really need some depth on the front line for next season. It doesn't look like they are getting much interest.
 
deanvogs said:
LOLOLOLOL....you were NEVER, and I mean NEVER going to sign Vaughn last year, or Diallo this year. Even having a bag man like Matt A wasn't going to net you Diallo.
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Lmao. I specifically said in my post that I never thought Diallo was going to ISU. How did Vaughn get brought into this? It will be a cold day in hell before they would even consider Iowa. Too bad you wouldn't have actually went to school at Iowa. Maybe you wouldn't be so stupid. Trailor Trash tavern hawk is what you are!
 
deadeyededric said:
Lmao. I specifically said in my post that I never thought Diallo was going to ISU. How did Vaughn get brought into this? It will be a cold day in hell before they would even consider Iowa. Too bad you wouldn't have actually went to school at Iowa. Maybe you wouldn't be so stupid. Trailor Trash tavern hawk is what you are!
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Then why would you say your chances were "pretty good" until Matt A left then? How can one think the chances of getting a recruit are both pretty good, and never going to happen at the same time?

No question that when Matt A left so did our chances with Diallo which were probably pretty good until Matt left for New York. I never thought he would end up in Ames anyway.


As far as recruits go, you got on the final 5 list for a recruit who picked Kansas, big whoop, as Kansas can't make it past the sweet 16. Iowa made the top 3 for a kid who picked Kentucky (who is relevant and has been to 2 final 4's and a NC game in the last two years.) So I guess a cold day in hell occurred just a year ago or so.

Oh, and Vaughn is only mentioned because it has been hilarious listening to Clown fan talk about Vaughn for a whole year, and now Diallo for a full year where they actually thought they were gonna get those kids. Freaking hilarious, and I like mentioning hilarious Clown moments.
 
deadeyededric said:
Lmao. I specifically said in my post that I never thought Diallo was going to ISU. How did Vaughn get brought into this? It will be a cold day in hell before they would even consider Iowa. Too bad you wouldn't have actually went to school at Iowa. Maybe you wouldn't be so stupid. Trailor Trash tavern hawk is what you are!
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Dean, please take it easy on him. He mad.
 
I thought ISU had a puncher's chance with Diallo when Matt A was still around...when he left, I figured no chance.
 
It's funny how many posters on CyFan even change their avatars to pictures of Diallo or Vaughn before they even made their announcement. HOPE HOPE HOPE..... and then BAM they shatter their dreams and all of a sudden the response becomes... "Well I never actually thought they'd end up coming to Iowa State".
 
DP5555 said:
It's funny how many posters on CyFan even change their avatars to pictures of Diallo or Vaughn before they even made their announcement. HOPE HOPE HOPE..... and then BAM they shatter their dreams and all of a sudden the response becomes... "Well I never actually thought they'd end up coming to Iowa State".
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Better yet is the crowd that says, welp he wouldn't have played with McKay and Niang on the court anyway. It is gonna be funny watching him come into lAmes and beat the clowns. Fredie is 1-9 all time Vs Kansas during the regular season when it really means something.
 
kwah said:
Dean, please take it easy on him. He mad.
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No way. When you got low hanging fruit you take it. This guy has to be one of the dumbest Clown fans on this site (now that Forever got the boot). He's my new b!tch, and I can only hope he keeps posting
 
deanvogs said:
No way. When you got low hanging fruit you take it. This guy has to be one of the dumbest Clown fans on this site (now that Forever got the boot). He's my new b!tch, and I can only hope he keeps posting
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Keep fighting the good fight my man. It's quite entertaining!
 
mj4cy said:
I thought ISU had a puncher's chance with Diallo when Matt A was still around...when he left, I figured no chance.
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I thought ISU fan says Matt A sucks?? Why would a recruit be more attached to Matt A than they are the freaking Mayor? I mean Da Mayor is a youtube dancing sensation, and parlayed that into an Infinity commercial. Not only that he is the hottest NBA coaching prospect in college BB, why the *uck would a high school kid care about Matt freaking A?
 
deanvogs said:
Say what? You are the dude who came over to a Hawk board and got his panties in a bunch about this, why do you care so much what Hawk fans think? Do you care this much when the talking heads at ESPN call you Transfer U?

It is pretty freaking obvious what is going on, but Clowns like you and deadeyedick just can't see the simple facts that are right in front of you.
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You have yet to provide any factual information bud. That's the reason I came onto this board to post, b/c hawk fans are simply making **** up and are spewing it around to justify that although Fred and ISU's program is superior to Iowa's (for now), that he's doing it the wrong way and "forcing and pushing" players out of the program.

Transfer U is implying that ISU brings in a lot of transfers, which they do, and there is no denying that. They aren't calling ISU Transfer U b/c Fred is a bully and pushes out his players...but I guess Hawk Fans like to spin it that way (or are too dumb to figure it out) b/c they'll do whatever it takes to undermine Fred's success.
 
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kaneisable50 said:
You have yet to provide any factual information bud. That's the reason I came onto this board to post, b/c hawk fans are simply making **** up and are spewing it around to justify that although Fred and ISU's program is superior to Iowa's (for now), that he's doing it the wrong way and "forcing and pushing" players out of the program.
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I'm sure Fred is glad you have his back. He wants nothing more than to be associated with loser trolls like you.
 
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