Iowa's Biggest Rival: Interesting poll results
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Are you basing a rivalry off of 1 message board?
DexterMorgan
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DexterMorgan
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Go back and re-read what he said.
Cyclones17
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74Hunter
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If you want to be the grammar police and act holier than thou, then you should probably understand that NU most likely came from the Alma Matter when it references "Dear ole Nebraska U."
Wow, of all of the things to be critical of, little brother
Originally Posted by HawkfromnorwalkI'm pretty sure they refer to themselves as the goo on God's Right Hand too.
I LOLd at this. Very funny
Palpatine
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I don't know about the biggest "rival," but I really, really hate Northwestern. And Illini fans.
I don't consider ISU a "rival." ISU is like the trailer-trash relatives that you have to see every year at the family reunion. They're missing a tooth here and there, and you can't have any kind of meaningful conversation about anything.
I don't consider ISU a "rival." ISU is like the trailer-trash relatives that you have to see every year at the family reunion. They're missing a tooth here and there, and you can't have any kind of meaningful conversation about anything.
tm3308
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Really? There are more Iowa-ISU interactions in the state of Iowa? Who woulda thunk THAT one?
Iowa is not Chicago. It's not exactly a melting pot for college athletics. You said yourself, 95% of the fans in the state root for either Iowa or ISU. I know it's not my inclination to talk s*it about Wisconsin when I run into an ISU fan, and I'm sure that it isn't for any other Hawk fan. The fact that we see each other more often proves nothing. I'm sure Texas fans see Baylor fans all the time. Does that make Baylor a big rival?
Wisconsin is our biggest rival. There is much more on the line when we play them. There's very little on the line when we play ISU. We don't compete for the same recruits, we aren't in the same conference, and we aren't on the same level. Wisconsin is ISU's complete opposite in those regards. And their fans were by and large just as p*ssed about not playing Iowa as we were about not playing the Badgers.
I just don't see what you were trying to accomplish, other than annoy us and stir the pot. You had to know there would be no convincing us that ISU is our biggest rival. So why continue to argue that point? I mean, YOU apparently know that's the "truth", so why not just sit in your room and be content with that?
The OP and poll lends itself to confusion; there's a difference between loathing and rivaling.
For some programs they're the same; Mich/O$U
For others they're not; AFA/USMA = rivalry, =/= loathing
Any team in a conference should absolutely not have a non-conference team as their primary rival. Iowa's should be Wisconsin and should not be ISU and I suspect this is exactly the case.
This is where ISU fans fail so often; go onto CF and you will find numerous fans that regard the Iowa/ISU game as sacred. For far too many it is indeed the superbowl. ISU has a rival right in front of it and that is KSU. KSU is the only historic conference partner that ISU has a winning record against, yeah, that's right, we own the all time series but who gives a **** when we've done nothing whatsoever of merit in a century. KSU achieved with Snyder what we've wanted forever, relevance, which is why I hate their guts yet most ISU fans love to waste time worrying about Iowa. IIRC Ferentz is .500 vs. ISU. Meanwhile, we had a losing record vs. every team in the Big XII North. WTF Cyclones?
In the case of ISU any rational person can see that loathing gets you nowhere. Honestly, I'd like to see the series go away so we'd be forced to find a Wisconsin in our own conference.
For some programs they're the same; Mich/O$U
For others they're not; AFA/USMA = rivalry, =/= loathing
Any team in a conference should absolutely not have a non-conference team as their primary rival. Iowa's should be Wisconsin and should not be ISU and I suspect this is exactly the case.
This is where ISU fans fail so often; go onto CF and you will find numerous fans that regard the Iowa/ISU game as sacred. For far too many it is indeed the superbowl. ISU has a rival right in front of it and that is KSU. KSU is the only historic conference partner that ISU has a winning record against, yeah, that's right, we own the all time series but who gives a **** when we've done nothing whatsoever of merit in a century. KSU achieved with Snyder what we've wanted forever, relevance, which is why I hate their guts yet most ISU fans love to waste time worrying about Iowa. IIRC Ferentz is .500 vs. ISU. Meanwhile, we had a losing record vs. every team in the Big XII North. WTF Cyclones?
In the case of ISU any rational person can see that loathing gets you nowhere. Honestly, I'd like to see the series go away so we'd be forced to find a Wisconsin in our own conference.
tm3308
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Let's not make things up here. They have plenty of fans who would rather do away with the game altogether, just like we do. And a lot more who don't care either way, just like us.
Clone fans, does THAT^ sound like a rivalry to you?
Exactly. Hate whoever you want for what ever reason. But Wiskey has been our Rival since before any of us were even born.
MelroseHawkins
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They really aren't. There is so much more riding on the Wisconsin game or even Penn St game. The ISU game is a nice out of conference game but that is about it. Sorry to disappoint.
I bit less now though with divisions, correct? I see Iowa/Nebraska replacing Iowa/Wisconsin.
74Hunter
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It's going to be tough to replace, what 90 or 100 years of a rivalry.
ShockRerun
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But the Iowa/Wisconsin game now could be the conference championship game, that raises the stakes.
But im of the opinion that you should not loathe a rival, a real rival you have grudging respect for. Rivals are teams that you root for except when you play them. Why hate other teams/fans, just be happy when your team wins, have some good natured teasing for a while,but dont hate them. Win or lose it is a game. Everyone thinks everyone else is smug or arrogant or cocky or whatever, that is what anyone that is confident in their team will come off as. when you talk to someone about your team are you saying "awe shucks, i hope we do good." No everyone trumps up the positives about their program and forgets the negatives. That is not a reason to hate another team/fans.
You should want to beat them not want the other guy to lose.
But im of the opinion that you should not loathe a rival, a real rival you have grudging respect for. Rivals are teams that you root for except when you play them. Why hate other teams/fans, just be happy when your team wins, have some good natured teasing for a while,but dont hate them. Win or lose it is a game. Everyone thinks everyone else is smug or arrogant or cocky or whatever, that is what anyone that is confident in their team will come off as. when you talk to someone about your team are you saying "awe shucks, i hope we do good." No everyone trumps up the positives about their program and forgets the negatives. That is not a reason to hate another team/fans.
You should want to beat them not want the other guy to lose.
MelroseHawkins
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Yes, to a point. Missing some years definitely takes away from it. But, playing them after missing a couple years will be special & amped up to. There is the remote chance of meeting in the championship game but, the planets have to be perfectly aligned & the odds are rare.
Overall, I suppose the game wil lose a little of its luster.
Hawkeye11en1
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I grew up as an Iowa fan and had it ingrained that Wisky was our rival. My parents went to Drake and my dad had about 8 Wisky friends. Every year they would go to the game (around 8 Wisky fans and 8 Iowa fans). When the game was at Iowa I can remember them all coming down and actually playing a touch football game in our yard. Those idiots would even mow outlines of a 50 yd field and play Iowa vs Wisconsin.
Yeah we enjoyed watching the Iowa - ISU game, but they were not our rivals. Wisky was.
Yeah we enjoyed watching the Iowa - ISU game, but they were not our rivals. Wisky was.
kicker22
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Are you seriously that delusional. How can one fan base tell another fanbase that the entire fanbase is wrong about who their biggest rival is. Wake up call Iowa fans think ISU is irrelevant and not our biggest rivalry. Get a clue.
vigorousKnit
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this is my point exactly. Iowa fans will grow to loathe UNL (happy now Ok4p?) and they will surely see them as their biggest rival. just in the same way that ISU fans will argue to death that Iowa is their biggest rival. however, the same stance that Iowa takes in the ISU rivalry will be taken by UNL. they will not look at Iowa as their equal and therefore will not acknowledge the game as the "big" rivalry that so many on this board are desperate for it to be. their (UNL's) fanbase will get far more excited over games like tOSU, PSU, and MU because it provides them the validation they need: believing they're on an elite level with the best in the country (current or historically) despite the fact that they're living in the past.
DexterMorgan
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Only way this game really takes off as a rivalry for both sides is if Iowa wins at least the first 2 games.
