I Like Tim Tebow

BLKNGOLD48 said:
What are you really complaining about? The dude has played 5 NFL games, he is 4-1. He's not a great QB but the record speaks for itself. Spank, why has he won 4 out of 5 games?
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I'm complaining because PEOPLE THINK HE IS GREAT! "He just wins".

You know why he wins?

Because the 4 games the Broncos won, they played Miami (2-7), Oakland (5-4), Kansas City (4-5), and the Jets (5-5)...

The point totals from the oppositions offense? 15, 24, 10, 13.

THAT'S why Tim Tebow is winning.

The only decent team Tebow faced, he was toyed with by a defense that could have taken him out. (They would too, as that defense is ruthless and dirty.)
 
storminspank said:
I always shrug during postgame interviews when the reporter asks how a player was able to hit that fade away jumper with time expiring to win the game and the player responds - "Jesus." or "All the credit to God, he helped me hit the shot." I get praising your Lord and Saviour, but you really think God has time to watch over your during a game where you dribble a leather ball on a wooden court and helped direct your shot into the bucket? Really? He might have given you strength, motivation, whatever, but he didn't make that shot.

Those sort of things just make me shake my head.

Everyone has their own views on faith, God, etc... I understand that, but sometimes there's a limitation.
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I certainly agree with that. when in conversation anyhow, but it doesn't offend me. It is just their way to express themselves. All the power to them for working hard to get to that platform and be able to do so.
 
VintageHawkeye said:
See, you think that I live my "real" life in the same manner as I post here, even though you don't know a thing about me.
That makes you either ignorant or a troll. Which is it, frank?
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Well it must make me ignorant. I don't know why you want to create an entire persona for a message board, especially a persona that annoys people. That makes you desperate for attention, or a tool. Which is it?
 
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DuffMan said:
Well its kind of a silly question. Atheists don't believe in god, so it's not like they'd point to the sky and then slit their throats or something. My guess is an atheist would call attention to being an atheist by just doing what ever other dude does and not giving thanks to God, which I see a lot of on Sunday.
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Sidestep.Answer the question, slick. How would you feel about an individual that signified his atheism every time he was in front of a camera, and including wearing eyeblack with "I'm an atheist" written on it?Would the act grow tiresome very quickly? Would you find it annoying that he kept shoving his atheism in your face? Would you be sickened by a slathering media that constantly applauded this guy's displays of overt atheism?
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it wouldn't bother me in the least.

that said being angry w the coverage Tebow gets because hd prays publicly is just ******* stupid. its just a part of who he is, just as tom Brady's sexual orientation challenging good looks are a part of who he is, just as peytons ability to run am offense is a part of who he is.... why don't you rail on them?
 
ColoradoHAWKEYE said:
I certainly agree with that. when in conversation anyhow, but it doesn't offend me. It is just their way to express themselves. All the power to them for working hard to get to that platform and be able to do so.
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See that's were I fundamentally disagree. If a person gets to a certain platform, why does that suddenly earn them the right to express that? Shouldn't it be about the game? Shouldn't it be able the team? Shouldn't it be about the reason he is able to be on that platform - the sport itself?

If players get to use that platform for whatever they wanted, it would get crazy.
 
DuffMan said:
it wouldn't bother me in the least.

that said being angry w the coverage Tebow gets because hd prays publicly is just ******* stupid. its just a part of who he is, just as tom Brady's sexual orientation challenging good looks are a part of who he is, just as peytons ability to run am offense is a part of who he is.... why don't you rail on them?
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Does Tom Brady talk about his good looks post-game and how they helped him win the game?

No, they have nothing to do with football. Neither does God. It's a freakin game.
 
frank said:
Well it must make me ignorant. I don't know why you want to create an entire persona for a message board, especially a persona that annoys people. That makes you desperate for attention, or a tool. Which is it?
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snappy comeback, franklin
if you have anything of substance to add to the actual discussion in here, please do so now
 
FCAS said:
I could be wrong, but I have to believe that there were a few Muslims, Jews, atheists, Hindus,.... on the Gator football teams that feel differently.
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I'm sure. Did they ever speak up? I recall some rumblings that timmy rah-rah wasn't as popular in the UF locker room as he and the media would have us believe.
 
DuffMan said:
it wouldn't bother me in the least.

that said being angry w the coverage Tebow gets because hd prays publicly is just ******* stupid. its just a part of who he is, just as tom Brady's sexual orientation challenging good looks are a part of who he is, just as peytons ability to run am offense is a part of who he is.... why don't you rail on them?
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BECAUSE THEY AREN'T SHOVING A RELIGION UP MY NOSE!!
Can't you grasp this very simple concept, Derff??
 
storminspank said:
DuffMan said:
it wouldn't bother me in the least.that said being angry w the coverage Tebow gets because hd prays publicly is just ******* stupid. its just a part of who he is, just as tom Brady's sexual orientation challenging good looks are a part of who he is, just as peytons ability to run am offense is a part of who he is.... why don't you rail on them?
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Does Tom Brady talk about his good looks post-game and how they helped him win the game?No, they have nothing to do with football. Neither does God. It's a freakin game.
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For those that genuinely believe their gifts, talents, and very existence are gifts from God its impossible to separate God from anything we do on earth.
 
JonDMiller said:
Yes, I have read it. You have read it. One of us understands its context.
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Oh yeah Jon of course, he must have meant something other than do not create a public spectacle of yourself when talking to your god. I love it when people use the excuse of context as a reason to not obey a scripture. Clearly Jesus did not mean to pray in the privacy of your own home, he even went as far as to say to do it in your own bedroom but the context means something else right? Read the scripture again:

“When you pray, you shall not be as the hypocrites, for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Most certainly, I tell you, they have received their reward. But you, when you pray, enter into your innerchamber, and having shut your door, pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly."
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When Jesus was talking to his disciples he did not call them hypocrites, he said to not BE like the hypocrites. There is no disclaimer that says it is ok to pray publically if your heart is in the right place. There is no reason to question what Jesus meant.

Just like the scripture says Tebow is getting his reward for what he is doing. His goody goody act is paying off handsomely.
 
storminspank said:
Does Tom Brady talk about his good looks post-game and how they helped him win the game?

No, they have nothing to do with football. Neither does God. It's a freakin game.
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Spank, that is what you believe. Tebow is doing what he believes. Not sure what the problem is here.
 
JonDMiller said:
I guess I contend that neither is Tebow. It's the tv networks decision to be all about him all the time that are shoving it in your face.
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Another cop-out. C'mon JD, you're a more critical thinker than this. :(
 
ssckelley said:
Oh yeah Jon of course, he must have meant something other than do not create a public spectacle of yourself when talking to your god. I love it when people use the excuse of context as a reason to not obey a scripture. Clearly Jesus did not mean to pray in the privacy of your own home, he even went as far as to say to do it in your own bedroom but the context means something else right? Read the scripture again:



When Jesus was talking to his disciples he did not call them hypocrites, he said to not BE like the hypocrites. There is no disclaimer that says it is ok to pray publically if your heart is in the right place. There is no reason to question what Jesus meant.

Just like the scripture says Tebow is getting his reward for what he is doing. His goody goody act is paying off handsomely.
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Context is very important.

and when Jesus said dont BE like the hypocrites, he was referring to the Pharisees who Jesus explained do things for their own glory, and not God's. Again, motive, condition of the heart stuff
 
JonDMiller said:
Context is very important.

and when Jesus said dont BE like the hypocrites, he was referring to the Pharisees who Jesus explained do things for their own glory, and not God's. Again, motive, condition of the heart stuff
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What did Allah say? What did Jaweh say? What did the Flying Spaghetti Monster say??
It's all about the alleged christian god though, isn't it.
Who is shoving their religion up my nose again?!? :confused:
 
JonDMiller said:
Context is very important.

and when Jesus said dont BE like the hypocrites, he was referring to the Pharisees who Jesus explained do things for their own glory, and not God's. Again, motive, condition of the heart stuff
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Who are we to say anything about motive, though.
In my opinion, which may be flawed, it appears that Tebow is more like a Pharisee than a Christian in regards to praising the glory of God.

How do you feel about the TV evangelists? In my opinion, Tebow acts like those to a certain extent.

It seems hypocritical for a Christian to act like that, to use the NFL as a stage for that. Is that something God wants to see one of his followers act like?
 
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