I can't resist. Great Alford read

[glidinghawk]

yeah, because if you are a bad guy, it's really hard to change. alfred is a bad guy. PP is just an example of such.

Alford is a bad guy.

Alford is a good coach.

A good coach usually does not cut it at UCLA.

An excellent coach usually does cut it at UCLA, but no guarantees.

I wonder if Alford knows exactly what he's getting into? The press will eviscerate him every chance they get when he mis-speaks or spouts BS.

I wonder if he realizes that he could be considered a bust by many if the Bruins are not in Elite 8 within 2 years?

I wonder if he realizes that if he does fall flat on his face, that he could end up as an assistant coach to Todd Lickliter?

He has only 5 wins in The Dance, and he's 48 years old. He has a whole lot of catching up to do. Even if he wins 75 to 80 percent of the regular season games, but can't win more than 2 games in the Dance for the next 5 years on average, he will be considered a failure by UCLA staff and alums.

Recruiting will be the key. Can he do it on the West Coast with all the heavy competition?

This will be interesting.

 

[sioux34]

I can not envision any way Alf is able to survive this job more than three seasons.
I see him in the future as Old Biff from the back to the future movies, talking about what a great coach he used to be.

 

[blkngldFRO]

Could you show me where I did that?

I think Lick did more to drive the program into the ground than Alford did and think that the people who are playing the moral police here on the board in regards to Alford are hypocrites because I would guess a huge majority of them were OK with the redshirting of Pierce back in the fall of 2002.

Nobody will ever admit to it though.

Not once have I said that Alford was a good man.

Alford did more damage to the fan base of Hawkeye basketball then you care to know. I personally know people that left the school after the PP situation. Attendance started to dwindle before he left.

heres a good look at it.
STORMINSPANK'S HAWKEYE RAMBLINGS: A Look at Iowa Basketball Attendance

 

[Section136]

Or the attendance drop could have been due to unmet expectations in the Evans/Recker years and the lack of wins early in the Horner/Brunner era.

Did people magically forgive Alford during the 2005-2006 season when Carver sold out a few times? No, Iowa had its best record of the Alford era that year.

 

[1977Hawkeye]

Or the attendance drop could have been due to unmet expectations in the Evans/Recker years and the lack of wins early in the Horner/Brunner era.

Did people magically forgive Alford during the 2005-2006 season when Carver sold out a few times? No, Iowa had its best record of the Alford era that year.

Yep, it was a variety of things, and the PP scandal sure did not help. But I think you hit the nail on the head - attendance started dropping when people realized that Alford was not taking us to the promised land, or even maintaining the same level of play as we saw under Davis. The fans came back in 2005-06 because the team was good. Seems pretty simple.

 

[1977Hawkeye]

I can not envision any way Alf is able to survive this job more than three seasons.
I see him in the future as Old Biff from the back to the future movies, talking about what a great coach he used to be.

+1. Alf had better find a way to start making Final Fours, and quick, else it will be a short stay.

 

[Foval21]

+1. Alf had better find a way to start making Final Fours, and quick, else it will be a short stay.

He needs championship banners to stay...they don't hang final four banners at ucla. Howland got to 2 or 3 final fours (iirc) and now he is gone. Final four isn't going to cut it.

 

[hawkfan33]

He needs championship banners to stay...they don't hang final four banners at ucla. Howland won 2 nat'l championships (iirc) and now he is gone. Final four isn't going to cut it.

LOL what?

 

[Foval21]

LOL what?

Big brain fart moment...I was thinking of the florida coach...howland had 2 or 3 final fours and he got fired...either way final fours aren't good enough. My bad.

 

[JHHawk]

Big brain fart moment...I was thinking of the florida coach...howland had 2 or 3 final fours and he got fired...either way final fours aren't good enough. My bad.

There is more to the end of the Howland era than simply wins and losses...somewhat like SA at Iowa.
Howland not only did not win enough,he alienated important boosters and alums. There was a scandal a couple years ago that showed how disengaged with his players he was...he was like Lick,close the office door and let the players fend for themselves,and they partied their arses off...before and after practice.

Howland deserved to be fired for stuff other than on the court. Arrogant, and out of touch...SA better learn from this,but I doubt he will.

 

[HawkAttack]

Some UCLA fans get it : Bruins Nation, a UCLA Bruins community

A couple lawyers on that site did some research into Alford's actions during the PP saga and posted their findings. Most on that site already want him gone.

 

[tm3308]

Lick was awful. If he kept the players he inherited and the players he recruited here he would more than likely still be the coach at Iowa. I wont lay the blame of Tyler Smith leaving on Lick but everybody else was because of him.

It takes a special kind of doosh to make Matt Gatens consider transferring from the University of Iowa. Thank God for Mike Gatens standing up to Barta.

I have no insider info, but I have a tough time believing Gatens would have ever transferred. That threat may have been made, but if so, I feel like it was more likely a well-played bluff.

Lick was in over his head and was just an awful hire, but he wasn't a bad guy by any account. Alford was and is a horrible person, and he's not much better as a coach. I don't like to see nice guys fail. But guys like Alford? Come on.

 

[FreedComanche]

I hope Alford enjoys the big fat paychecks he is getting because I think he signed his last contract he will ever get as a Head Coach of a major college. He will be lucky to get a job at Indiana State after this.

Yep, this will be his last major college job as a HC.

FreedComanche

 

[tm3308]

B. I. N. G. O!!

Some of you people have really short memories or no clue. I can't believe that there are PEOPLE actually trying to defend Lick. Wow!

Lick was a complete JOKE!!

He was a bad coach, or at least a horrendous fit in Iowa City. Name one person in this thread who has suggested otherwise.

 

[FreedComanche]

Let me help the "Get over Alford" crowd out a little bit.

The reason so many continue to talk about him...has little or nothing to do with basketball. It's the kind of person he was and is. He could be a politician, a celebrity, a high profile business owner...it doesn't matter. Basketball is just the vehicle thru which we were exposed to him.


People...and especially Iowans despise insincere, phony, self-absorbed folks who come off as aloof. He's all of those. Throw in a guy who never seems to take responsibility for things when they don't go well...brushing the blame off on those around him... expects things given to him because he's "special"... and worst of all, uses his "faith" as a shield (or even worse a weapon, see Pierre Pierce case)... you have a pretty damn good template for someone who's asking to be despised...and won't soon be forgotten.

And a guy that karma will eventually catch up with.

Throw the karma bit out and this is the best piece I've ever read about why alford is the easiest to dislike individual I have ever met.

FreedComanche

 

[FreedComanche]

I think most of the hate from middle aged men for Alford stems from the fact that most of your wives wanted to have an affair with him. Its alright Sioux, Stevie wouldnt have gone for your heifer.

LOL...................................

FreedComanche

 

[FreedComanche]

I would rather be "not very smart" than a little puss who runs away from an anonymous message board cuz hims was gettin picked on too much.

Quick! Threaten me with legal action 12345.

Lol..............a little puss who runs away. LOL..................I haven't heard that funny stuff since high school. Well, maybe college.

FreedComanche

 

[imported_ankle23]

Some UCLA fans get it : Bruins Nation, a UCLA Bruins community

A couple lawyers on that site did some research into Alford's actions during the PP saga and posted their findings. Most on that site already want him gone.

didn't read the 'couple lawyers' piece, but did see the BHGP piece and the comments underneath. i don't know if there is a coach who has entered a job with lower fan fare than steveo.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

Throw the karma bit out and this is the best piece I've ever read about why alford is the easiest to dislike individual I have ever met.

Wishful thinking perhaps, FC. We can hope...right?

FreedComanche

 

[imported_ankle23]

Some UCLA fans get it : Bruins Nation, a UCLA Bruins community

A couple lawyers on that site did some research into Alford's actions during the PP saga and posted their findings. Most on that site already want him gone.

what is the title of the article you are referencing? i don't see it.