Here we go again...the bowl system is a mess

[Billso]

The hostile tone of this thread makes me uncomfortable. Jon assured me when I joined that this would be a "safe space" for me.

 

[mysteron]

I don't believe the NCAA needs to reinforce the entitlement mentality of these Chamber of Commerce types who create too many bowls without putting any thought behind it. Things like golly gosh gee how many 6-6 teams will we have to pick from if any at the end of the regular season? Sure do hope there are no college grads, certainly not MBAs making those decisions. Just a matter of simple math. I get that going to a bowl is a reward for the players. But in no way does any 5-7 team deserve any kind of reward. If that's the case why not just hand out participation ribbons to everyone. Everyone's a winner!

Ummm, fundamental hope and change has arrived my friend. The days of white privilege merit-driven values are over.

 

[Seth53]

Ummm, fundamental hope and change has arrived my friend. The days of white privilege merit-driven values are over.

You are so right my friend.

While we're at it, why not invite 1-10 teams. Invite everyone!

 

[Seth53]

Bowls are and have always been creatures of commerce. They are exhibitions. Yes, on top of that, the B1G sent its champion starting in the late 40's to the rose bowl. And still, apart from the players and coaches, it was exhibition. Commerce dressed up as amusement.

As time went by more institutions had opportunities to participate based on merit. Still it is commerce.

No need to get up in arms about teams being deserving

I gave you a thumb NC (mainly because you post good music...lafff)....however

Being 6-6, or worse and sub-500 conf, or worse, is not merit based. Disguising the selection of a 5-7 team's selection as an academic endeavor is just a lie.

Taking two teams from the same damn conference simply because nobody else really wanted to go to your worthless bowl is mind-numbingly ludicrous.

 

[SmokeTownHawk]

If they want to go the losers route why not invite a couple 0-12 teams?

 

[shonblatt]

Yeah, what about that don't you understand?

And as for #2, see #1.

Not grumpy at all. Simply a pragmatic fella who sits and shakes his head at the money grabbers this time of year...at college football's expense.

Once again, tighten up the criteria. Make the post-season college football season mean something.

The important bowl games don't suddenly mean less because 5-7 Southwest Blowhard State played in a new game on December 14th that only 76 people watch on Fox Sports West 3.

This isn't at college football's expense. These games aren't a mockery, because other than the teams who get invited to them and those of you who participate in bowl confidence pools, few people even know or care that they exist.

It's a chance for some city to try to build up some tourism revenue, and an opportunity for a few more teams to travel and get in some extra practices. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Seth53]

Teams who finish with a (in theory) 7-5 or better record should be rewarded with what a bowl has to offer for a reward for a season's body of good to great work:

- Extra practices
- Good press
- Extra 'fun' game
- Perhaps some residual money in the coffers
- Continued pacification of the fan base
- A vacation travel destination

6-6 /5-7 teams should not be allowed the same perks/advantages of a bowl game as the teams who deserve/earned it.

What's the difficulty in comprehending that?

 

[tm3308]

A mess, laughable, desperate, T-Rex syndrome. Forty(!) bowl games in all. Forty! Good Lord.

I'm witnessing things I've never seen before, even in the muck and the mire known as the bowl system. They are truly floundering to fill up their worthless games with over priced tickets, with the end product being 1/2 empty stadiums.

To wit:

#1--The Arizona Bowl picked two teams from the same conference

#2--They ran out of teams who met the laughable criteria of merely being 6-6 or better to quality.
This year, the mother-ship NCAA stepped in and put together criteria for 5-7 teams to go.
Criteria....get this...baed on academic stature. It's so absurd it's almost criminal.
So, instead of tightening up the criteria and simply telling the have-nots they're no longer needed/wanted, they invented bogus ones.

#3--And who are these fine, outstanding institutions being blessed for their academic standing? There were three....

Nebraska of course, @ 5-7. (Foster Farmers Bowl)
San Jose State (Cure Bowl)
Minnesota (Quick Lane Bowl)....I guess Neb's and Minney's losses to Iowa looked pretty impressive too.

At least the consolation-prize Big-6 bowls (which you have to sit around like a dog waiting for a treat to get named to) have some dignity remaining.

Hate on the total number of bowls all you want. That's a fair criticism. But I'm pretty sure all of these bowls have agreements with the NCAA. The NCAA can't just say, sorry, not enough 6-6 teams, you guys can't have your bowl this year.

 

[theboat]

Yeah, what about that don't you understand?

g.

I understand that if I get **** splattered on something I throw that something away cause it is fu**in' ruined.

Leave the analogies to me pal, cause you suck at it.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

Bowl games are a reward for the kids who do not get paid...Let them have fun and prepare for next season with the extra practices. Don't watch the games if you are butt hurt. Pretty simple

No, bowl games are for winners. Otherwise every D1 player would get to go. (but in the post "everybody gets a trophy" era, I'm sure that's the next move)

 

[HomerChampless]

What the NCAA and Corporate Sponsorships are doing is really not much different from what gangsters and loan sharks do who make predatory loans. While the bankers wear three-piece suits and don't break the knee caps of those who can't pay back, they still are destroying people's lives. The games are rigged, the bowl prices are rigged, and top 1 tenth of 1 percent is benefiting from it all. Hawkeye fans, I urge you to go to www.berniesanders.com and let's have a revolution to fix this corrupt, political, bowl system.

Don't think I want to rely on the federal government to provide me with a job. I don't think EVERYONE should rely on the federal government to provide jobs...that's what Bernie would do.

 

[Floridahawkeye1]

Seth, Step, Sep, punk, whatever. ?
You are an ignorant loser.
The bowls are awesome
You don't like it - tough.
You ***** about everything.
Unhappy, sore, sorry loser.
Bedtime for you ..are you 3 or 4 ?
Read your comic book when you awaken
Also, try to grow a brain.
Try laughing, just look in a mirror.
Or watch another Disney movie.
Frozen might be fun for you.
Get off this site. Nighty note.

 

[theboat]

Don't think I want to rely on the federal government to provide me with a job. I don't think EVERYONE should rely on the federal government to provide jobs...that's what Bernie would do.

I would vote for Bernie if he gets me to the Rose bowl.

 

[PCHawk]

Ask them...at this stage of the season and you're 6-6 or 5-7, it's a grind. Since August. It's now December.

"Hoo Boy...we *get* fifteen more practices so we can go to the Farmer's bowl!"

Don't think they're saying that about now.

What's their numbers? I'll shoot em a text.

 

[PCHawk]

They don't need less bowls, they need more teams.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

The youth participation phase has now filtered into college football. Everybody gets to play. Often times, these worthless bowls cost the schools more than they can make up. A teams should at least, at least be over .500. A 5-7 team should not go, especially when you add into the fact that 1-2 of those wins are against a pre-season crap program or a FCS team. This is why AT LEAST 7-5 should be the threshold.

It's just so diluted now that it's not relevant and unbearable to even watch.

 

[ICHawk24]

The bowl system was founded as a way to make money, and remains the same. Those bad bowls accomplish the goals of their backers.

Group up and accept reality instead of complaining about it like a 10 year old.

 

[theboat]

It's just so diluted now that it's not relevant and unbearable to even watch.

Then don't watch

 

[trj]

84 of 128 D-1 teams will go bowling. If you are a HC in a power 5 conference and can't get your team to a bowl game 1 out of every 3 years then you are probably at the wrong school.

 

[bcl20]

You get punished for being terrible by going to no bowl. You get punished for mediocrity by going to an embarrassing bowl (lol Nebraska) The bowl system has been diluted for years and every one knows what bowls master and what ones don't. The rest can be ignored if no one cares or can be watched of you do.

The sanctity of sport isn't being destroyed over this ****.