Here we go again...the bowl system is a mess

The youth participation phase has now filtered into college football. Everybody gets to play. Often times, these worthless bowls cost the schools more than they can make up. A teams should at least, at least be over .500. A 5-7 team should not go, especially when you add into the fact that 1-2 of those wins are against a pre-season crap program or a FCS team. This is why AT LEAST 7-5 should be the threshold.

It's just so diluted now that it's not relevant and unbearable to even watch.

I don't think it's that so much as it is a money thing. Not for schools but ad revenue and ticket sales. But I agree with you 100% on the 7-5 requirement, which unfortunately won't happen because it would reduce the number of bowls by a long ways.

Also as much as I HATE to say it, you have to change your sig now.
 
I don't get the youth participation comparison either. I can assure you 5-7 Nebraska doesn't feel accomplished.
 
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What the NCAA and Corporate Sponsorships are doing is really not much different from what gangsters and loan sharks do who make predatory loans. While the bankers wear three-piece suits and don't break the knee caps of those who can't pay back, they still are destroying people's lives. The games are rigged, the bowl prices are rigged, and top 1 tenth of 1 percent is benefiting from it all. Hawkeye fans, I urge you to go to www.berniesanders.com and let's have a revolution to fix this corrupt, political, bowl system.



Uh, no politics on HN. Particularly ludicrous, angry, 70 yr old, curmudgeon communist politics.
 
Seth, Step, Sep, punk, whatever. ?
You are an ignorant loser.
The bowls are awesome
You don't like it - tough.
You ***** about everything.
Unhappy, sore, sorry loser.
Bedtime for you ..are you 3 or 4 ?
Read your comic book when you awaken
Also, try to grow a brain.
Try laughing, just look in a mirror.
Or watch another Disney movie.
Frozen might be fun for you.
Get off this site. Nighty note.
Seth is a quality poster. and he's right.
 
You get punished for being terrible by going to no bowl. You get punished for mediocrity by going to an embarrassing bowl (lol Nebraska) The bowl system has been diluted for years and every one knows what bowls master and what ones don't. The rest can be ignored if no one cares or can be watched of you do.

The sanctity of sport isn't being destroyed over this ****.


But what you gain, harmless rhetoric poo-poo'ing aside is very tangible.

Extra practices and the extra game. (And to a lesser extent, a fun trip for the players).

Which is what every coach harps on.

The post-season playing field should not be the same if you're 5-7 or 12-1.
 
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How about letting FCS teams that get eliminated in the playoffs (like Portland State who lost to UNI, for example) play in a bowl game instead of a 5-7 FBS team, like Minnesota? They would be more excited to be there and maybe make it a fun game.
 
But what you gain, harmless rhetoric poo-poo'ing aside is very tangible.

Extra practices and the extra game. (And to a lesser extent, a fun trip for the players).

Which is what every coach harps on.

The post-season playing field should not be the same if you're 5-7 or 12-1.
Mebe the NCAA's way of attempting to level the playing field. Like, for example, 'bad' teams getting higher draft picks in the pros?
 
Seth is a quality poster. and he's right.


You must not be paying attention to Seth since Iowa lost, because that quality if you haven't noticed has taken quite a big hit since the Big Ten Championship game ended. Seth always seemed to be well grounded and very good poster but he took the loss hard.
 
You must not be paying attention to Seth, because that quality if you haven't noticed has taken quite a big hit since the Big Ten Championship loss. Seth always seemed to be well grounded but he took this loss hard..

I agree, Seth was always solid. Either someone hacked his account, or that loss on Saturday sent him off the deep end.
 
Don't think I want to rely on the federal government to provide me with a job. I don't think EVERYONE should rely on the federal government to provide jobs...that's what Bernie would do.

It's kinda obvious which people post from their personal computer and which people post from their *****phone. lol
 
So, yeah, I can gripe. But do I have a solution? You bet I do.

First of all, make it an 8-team playoff.
Auto bids for the conf champs. Not in a conf, too bad, you don't get consideration.
Seed them 1-8. First round game = home game for the higher seed.
Semi's and finals as they are now.

And, OK I suppose, have the CFP cartel designate to the remaining top (how ever many important bowls they consider there to be) bowls who the participants are. I guess they call them the Big-6 or something.

Finally, tighten up the lesser-bowl-criteria so the minimum is 7-5 overall and .500 or better in conference play. Don't meet that? You don't go.

It'll make the bowls season nationally relevant again. Hell, they might even sell some tickets.

I may have mentioned this elsewhere, but the autobids have the opportunity to screw some things up.
Are we talking P5 autobids for champs or the G5 as well? That would be 10 champs and 8 spots to fill.
Now, if you're just going to give it to P5 champs, then you have the chance to get some screwy results, like when a 8-4 or Wisconsin was conference champs. You can drop all 4 non-con games, and possibly even one or 2 conference games and still win a championship. 2008, Virginia Tech was 8-4 (5-3 in conference) and won a conference championship. These teams would be autobids while teams without championships (maybe like an Iowa this year, 12-1, but loss in the championship game) that are fighting for at-large selections into that final 3 chosen spots or left out of the conversation entirely.

As far as bowl games, I think an underappreciated side-effect of so many bowls is that teams get those extra practices. This means that there is a possibility for greater parity when the San Jose State's and such get a chance to compete and get more exposure and more practice time. And a bowl game is still a reward to student athletes. I doubt that many, if any, players are against an all-expenses paid trip that comes with a nice little goodie-bag and an extra game to play on TV.
 
Seth, Step, Sep, punk, whatever. ?
You are an ignorant loser.
The bowls are awesome
You don't like it - tough.
You ***** about everything.
Unhappy, sore, sorry loser.
Bedtime for you ..are you 3 or 4 ?
Read your comic book when you awaken
Also, try to grow a brain.
Try laughing, just look in a mirror.
Or watch another Disney movie.
Frozen might be fun for you.
Get off this site. Nighty note.

I hope it was *good* liquor, at least...
 
I may have mentioned this elsewhere, but the autobids have the opportunity to screw some things up.
Are we talking P5 autobids for champs or the G5 as well? That would be 10 champs and 8 spots to fill.
Now, if you're just going to give it to P5 champs, then you have the chance to get some screwy results, like when a 8-4 or Wisconsin was conference champs. You can drop all 4 non-con games, and possibly even one or 2 conference games and still win a championship. 2008, Virginia Tech was 8-4 (5-3 in conference) and won a conference championship. These teams would be autobids while teams without championships (maybe like an Iowa this year, 12-1, but loss in the championship game) that are fighting for at-large selections into that final 3 chosen spots or left out of the conversation entirely.

As far as bowl games, I think an underappreciated side-effect of so many bowls is that teams get those extra practices. This means that there is a possibility for greater parity when the San Jose State's and such get a chance to compete and get more exposure and more practice time. And a bowl game is still a reward to student athletes. I doubt that many, if any, players are against an all-expenses paid trip that comes with a nice little goodie-bag and an extra game to play on TV.

You're correct in the one instance in 2012 because both PSU and OSU were deemed illegible to play in the champ game. (interesting set of circumstances). And yes, Wisky lost to both those teams in the last two weeks of the regular season.

However, Wisky went out and beat a (at the time) 10-2 Nebby team 70-31 in the B1G champ game.

Anyway, I think the main mantra here is aberrations do occur. But for the most part the cream rises to the top in the champ games of any conference.

In my scenario of the 8 team playoff system.....look at what would have happened if the top seeded teams got a home game in the first round....

(8) ND @ (1) Clemson
(7) OSU @ (2) Alabama
(6) Stanford @ (3) MSU
(5) Iowa @ (4) Oklahoma

Would 2-loss NC and FSU b!tch because they got left out. Of course. But a one-loss Iowa team should be in the playoffs this year as an at-large.

That tasty smorgasbord of games would have everybody's football tastebuds watering.
 
Do not understand this argument.

How is the Foster Farmers Bowl a reward?

The players will work more and the school will get more money and the kids will get nothing.

Nothing?

Free vacation to San Francisco..
Good food
Good times with their buddies
Bowl Practices out there will be walk-throughs
Spoiled rotten kids already get everything.
 
Hey guys, look on the bright side. There's 40 bowls. 80 out of 132 teams get to go to bowls. And ISU isn't one of them.

#SilverLining
 

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