What are you even reading right now? My jaw is actually dropped that you think what I'm saying is bad. I say set up a program to get people who didn't have a choice a chance to have what they want and you read kick out the blacks. I guess I'll triple down. The people who would be interested in going back to their homeland would approach the program. They wouldn't be forced into it by white people who want them all gone.
Hawkeyes Past, Present, Future Share Feelings on Racial Injustice
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Ree4
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Hahahaha WTF
RoamingHawk
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I haven't read through all of this but is PCHawk aware of Liberia and Sierra Leone?
I'm not advocating on deporting citizens. Some people want to move back to their roots. People of all races. The government can't just pay the bill for everyone who wants to follow their dream. But if someone is here because their ancestors were forced here, should that be an exception?
It's not defecation. It's trying to fix all sides at the same time.
If you're just learning this now, you must live in a very isolated area. I grew up in a very isolated area but learned within my first day of college how racist this country is. Every day since has only confirmed that belief.
That's even better. It's crazy that you can speak for everyone like that.
Yes, hundred of thousands of people are protesting for the right to "go home". I misunderstood the protests. Got it.
Ree4
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From Rob's link:
"I can completely understand why broke white folks get pissed when the word 'privilege' is thrown around...I was constantly discriminated against because of my poverty and those wounds still run very deep...[But] The concept of intersectionality recognizes that people can be privileged in some ways and definitely not in others." ~Gina Crosley-Corcoran
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The point is you're comparing poverty to black oppression. They are not the same. Privilege isn't wealth related.
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Fryowa
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Lol.
Because in a hypothetical world if I was being oppressed, how would I take the suggestion that if I didn’t like it here I could take an all expenses paid trip back to Germany since that’s where my ancestors are from?
There are 6, 8, 10 generations of black people removed from slavery, man. They don’t know that land, they don’t feel ties to that land, and they shouldn’t. Because this is their land. Black people have way more “claim” to nationality here than you or I do because we came from Europe in the early part of last century, long after African American were here.
How the F could you be so ignorant to think...
1) that any black person in America would want to leave their birthright country (the US) for a land where they have nothing, giving everything up here. Just because a white guy said, “Hey, we can’t fix the problem, so if you want we’ll buy you a plane ticket to the Gold Coast or Cameroon or Ghana?”
2) that offering to ship disillusioned black people off would solve any problem at all.
Tell me how that’s different than offering them to go live on an Indian reservation somewhere. It’s actually worse because you’re insulting people’s fucking intelligence by assuming they might want to do that voluntarily.
Jesus fucking Christ dude. There’s been some seriously stupid shit said on this board, my posts definitely included, but this one just took the whole goddamn cake with extra frosting. Wow.
There it is right there.
And stop letting so many people in now. The lifeboat can't hold much more.
Ree4
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How many do you really think are interested in your proposition? You think it would be a non-zero number? How many do you think would be offended by your offer? Do you think it would be less than 100%?
I have no idea how many people would be interested in it. I've already said this isn't coming from "if you don't like it, get out". People are acting like the only reason to leave a country is because you hate it here.
pootspot
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So part of the argument is how raised and area grew up and we need to sympathize and try to understand that but if white we privileged in other ways because some educated privileged person says so? Ok
Any of you been to jail? Any of you spent time in minority areas? Lived around and been the minority in said areas? Trust me racism is alive in all races.
I hope things get better but I do me and do people like they do me. I’m not gonna be fake or push a narrative out of some guilt about what’s happened to anyone that was caused by me. Maybe I’m in sensitive but no ones done it for me either and that’s fine by me.
Ree4
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"But listen: This is not said to make white people feel guilty about their privilege. It’s not your fault that you were born with white skin and experience these privileges. But whether you realize it or not, you do benefit from it, and it is your fault if you don’t maintain awareness of that fact."
Been to jail? With a name like Reefer? Of course. Been the minority? Yep.
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Here it is again: Link
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Ok Fry listen. You're right about the ties thing is different for people from Europe because of the time frame. But some people from Europe do want to get back to their homeland and that's where my idea came from. I'm sure there are plenty of irish people who would love to move back to Ireland bit don't because of money. That's where my thoughts went.
I see a lot things saying if you don't like it leave and I've always hated them for two reasons. One is what was already said, we need to make it better instead. Two is because there is no way people could afford to leave when they wanted to. So my thought was if someone really wanted to get home (for any reason, not just because it sucks here) then it really sucks for them that centuries later they are still forced to stay due to money. I'll say it one last time. This isnt about if you dont like it leave. It sure in the hell isn't about we dont want you here. It's about letting people decide for themselves, eliminating the money issue. You're right tho, ties to europe from a few generations ago is way more prevalent than the ties would be to Africa.
Ree4
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Oh, I have no doubt that you have no idea.
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