Are there any legs to the rumor about Bohannon wanting to transfer to Wisconsin? I know it has been mentioned on a certain subscription site.
Since nobody responded I'm hoping this means this won't happen.
Are there any legs to the rumor about Bohannon wanting to transfer to Wisconsin? I know it has been mentioned on a certain subscription site.
Since nobody responded I'm hoping this means this won't happen.
The difference is I never put much stock into Connor being a big contributor at this level. Yes the sample size is small. I would say that in his only game against a P5 opponent (Colorado), he had 3 turnovers in 12 minutes.Small sample size is the problem. Nothing we saw this year would make me concerned that he's a bad basketball player. But, like everyone, he'll have to consistently prove himself on both sides of the ball before we can take it for granted. I just wanted to speculate on what would happen if everyone had a best case scenario. Connor's best case scenario has a much higher potential defensively than Bohannon. Baer would need to return to form, Weiskamp would have to be the real deal, Nunge would have to make HUGE strides on both sides of the ball, and Garza...well, he could just be Garza.
Edit: that leaves out why I think Nunge could be better than Cook. IMO, it comes down to the addition of 3 point shooting for floor spacing and similar rebounding/shot blocking potential.
That's the best starting 5 we could put on the floor, IMO. But it's still not good enough to make an 8 to 10 game difference in one season. That's a big leap. Nebraska made a 10 game leap from last season and it still wasn't good enough to get an NCAA invite.
I expect us to make a 6 to 8 game leap next season. That means our 9-4 OOC record (this season) gets to 11-2 and if we win 5 more games in the BIG conference, that's a 7 game improvement from this season. That's good enough to get us to 20 wins but not good enough to get us an NCAA invite. For us to make the NCAA tourney field, we'd have to go 12-1 in the OOC and 11-7 in conference - with some wins against top 25 teams. That's a hell of a leap for the worst P5 defensive team in the land.
Anthony Cowan made it - Maryland sucked.
Leron Black made it - Illinois sucked.
Kevin Huerter - Maryland.
Nate Mason - Minnesota.
Tyler Cook made it and he plays for Iowa.
Your theory isn't backed up by facts, in this case.
Anthony Cowan made it - Maryland sucked.
Leron Black made it - Illinois sucked.
Kevin Huerter - Maryland.
Nate Mason - Minnesota.
Tyler Cook made it and he plays for Iowa.
Your theory isn't backed up by facts, in this case.
The difference is I never put much stock into Connor being a big contributor at this level. Yes the sample size is small. I would say that in his only game against a P5 opponent (Colorado), he had 3 turnovers in 12 minutes.
I do agree with your take on Nunge. He completely changes the game on both ends when he plays the 4. On offense he spreads the floor and gives Garza or Cook for that matter room then to operate on the block. On defense his length and foot speed will make him excel at guarding 4s and also allow him to cover for other guys mistakes. I said in another thread I expect him to be our best defensive player next year, but if Fran continue to hamstring him by playing him at the 3, that might not be the case.
How about this fact. Last year Nate Mason was 1st team all big ten. This year he was an honorable mention. Last year he averaged 15 points and 5 assists. This year he averaged 17 points and 4 assists.
What was the difference? I'll give you a hint: Last year Minnesota was 24-9 and a 5 seed in the NCAA tournament. This year they were 4-14 in the Big Ten.
How about this fact. Last year Nate Mason was 1st team all big ten. This year he was an honorable mention. Last year he averaged 15 points and 5 assists. This year he averaged 17 points and 4 assists.
What was the difference? I'll give you a hint: Last year Minnesota was 24-9 and a 5 seed in the NCAA tournament. This year they were 4-14 in the Big Ten.
His frame. That’s part of the reason I just don’t see it with him. I don’t recall of a player that size, athleticism, and size ever being a quality PG at this level. To me he is considered a PG because he can’t shoot or score well enough to play the 2 or the 3. Don’t get me started on recruiting rankings, especially from ESPN.His first sequence in that game being assist, layup and 1, steal with 3 turnovers occurring later. That may or may not have anything to do with the fact that he was literally in the hospital for surgery resulting from mono a week later. I do fully acknowledge how silly it is to try to parse apart 12 minutes and that 3 turnovers is way too high in that amount of time. I'm just not willing to throw in the towel on an ESPN top 100 PG yet. I will still allow his recruiting ranking, frame, and pedigree to give me hope for his future.
On Nunge playing the 3: I might scream if it happens again next year. Which means I'll probably be screaming. He's fast for a PF/Center which he has the size and athleticism to play at a very high level. But putting him at the 3 largely mitigates those advantages unless he's going to take a guy off the dribble to the rim. He could do it, but it's not his strong point. My only hope is that Fran knows this and was using him at the 3 to force him to develop that part of his game.
I've used this example a million times: One of my favorite ISU players finished with 1,651 points, 448 assists, 524 rebounds, and 200 steals. He did it all in 3 years. These numbers would put him in the top 10 in the Iowa record books in several categories. Is he one of the best players to ever suit up for ISU? Do people remember him fondly?
No, it's Curtis Stinson, probably few if any people's favorite player and somebody who will likely be forgotten other than a few highlights.
You can amass stats, and that's great, but you better win games, and a lot of them, if you ever want to be considered an all-timer.
That's a really good example since I completely forgot about that dude.
I always think of Tim Frazier. That dude had a couple monster seasons, but got skipped over because their team was terrible. Frazier's junior season he had better numbers than Monte Morris' senior year, and Frazier still couldn't get 1st team all big ten because they only won 4 big ten games.
Frazier is a really good example. However, Stinson had more points, steals, and rebounds than him in only 3 seasons. If he would have stayed another year he probably would have had 2000+ points, 600+ assists and rebounds, and at least 250 steals. Those are absolutely unreal numbers... and essentially nobody cares.
I agree with both of you- winning is what makes a legend and Jordan may still do that. But either way it's hard to ignore the #1 guy at the top of the lists. Is Stinson and Frazier # 1 on ISU's list in anything? I bet if they were ya wouldn't forget about em.
Woolridge is remembered fondly and they never did much either. I would say Horner is remembered well. McCausland is remembered well.
Does it really matter if you finish 3rd in conference or 8th? 1st round exit or 2nd round exit. When you think about it, no team has won enough over the last 30 years to really matter.