Iowa wins vs MSU about 1 out of every 10 they would play. We hit the 1. Tide is turning.
Spoken like a true Clone fan.
Iowa wins vs MSU about 1 out of every 10 they would play. We hit the 1. Tide is turning.
Either way, there's absolutely no reason to send that MSU player back in the game. That's ridiculous.
Not a clone fanSpoken like a true Clone fan.
Reckless disregard. I don't really care that he passed a concussion protocol test. Common sense has to win out in that situation.I was shocked when they let him back in the game.
Not a clone fan
MSU had more talent, by far, but was undisciplined, cocky, assumed they would win, one of the easiest ways to lose.
Great to win ugly!
I pasted it as is. I'm assuming there is supposed to be a comma there.I gotcha. I would say it was a clean hit too. The helmet contact was accidental. Although I have seen a lot of accidental contact get called for targeting. It's a subjective rule. Example: Shoulder forearm. What is that, exactly? I know what a shoulder or a forearm is. What is a shoulder forearm? I assume you copied/pasted that term from the rule book? Or did you leave out the and/or?
No argument there. I thought it was a clean play at the time.I pasted it as is. I'm assuming there is supposed to be a comma there.
The very fact that it is subjective means that intent does matter. If a defender is trying to make a form tackle, and the offensive player changes his level resulting in helmet contact, the officials likely don't throw the flag, and, if they do and subsequently review it, they will be looking at the intent of the hit as it states in the first portion:
"takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact..."
"Aim" and "purpose" by definition indicate intent.
concurIf the favorites always won it would be a boring sports world.
An offensive player can stiff arm an opponents face mask as long as he doesn't close his fingers, I believe. Which is certainly what that MSU player did and got flagged for it, correctly.On a side note, I've always found in hypocritical that the offensive player can stiff arm to the face mask, but, if a defender makes contact to the face mask, it's a foul.
Ironically, while watching the game yesterday, I made that comment to my wife, then a couple of plays later, an MSU RB was called for grabbing a defender's face mask. We both laughed, but, it's something that very rarely is called.
Another irony is that a ball-carrier can use the helmet as a weapon, but, I believe there was an offensive player that got called for that recently in the NFL (Ezekiel Elliott maybe?). If the goal is to reduce injuries, then both leagues need to apply the rules to offensive and defensive players without prejudice.
Yes, if you actually grab the face mask, it is a personal foul either way, but, if a defender puts his hand on the face mask and pushes, it is "hands to the face," yet, it's legal for a runner to stiff-arm to the face. Doesn't seem consistent to me.An offensive player can stiff arm an opponents face mask as long as he doesn't close his fingers, I believe. Which is certainly what that MSU player did and got flagged for it, correctly.
Correct about ball carriers lowering their heads. I'm not sure if the theory is they are lowering their heads to gain the most yardage, rather than trying to inflict injury or harm. Either way, the end result is exactly the same. I'm not sure how they would correctly apply the rule for RBs. I think as long as the injuries don't pile up, they'll ignore it.
Not a clone fan
MSU had more talent, by far, but was undisciplined, cocky, assumed they would win, one of the easiest ways to lose.
Great to win ugly!
HawkeyeShane? He still around? Doesn't sound like something he'd do, though.Ok, damnit...who's Shane Cooper? And is he on this board?
I mean they had more raw athletic talent, but it was undisciplined, and they "played stupid."So you mean they had more athletic ability...NOT...more talent.