Biggest Case of Sour Grapes Ever

[hawkdrummer1]

sounds like a missed a quality rant

 

[phdsvp]

I hope there's an archive of it somewhere. I'm going to need it to warm my soul for the next couple of winter months.

 

[SCHawkeye2]

The unofficial South Carolina State motto is “Thank goodness for Mississippi!”.
This is why.

 

[#1DieHardHawk]

didn't get a chance to see it but does he make any issue about his coaches putting in a player that was reported to having fell unconscious? So many discipline issues and then that item. It was the last Outback bowl where KF got some flack for letting CJ play when he was supposedly "not Right" but what MSU did was very troubling especially when you consider the current atmosphere regrading head injuries.

His only reference to that situation was an implication that we got away with targeting since the player passed out. Of course, the replays showed nothing but a clean hit, but, never let the facts get in the way of a good opinion...

 

[judzeehawk]

Dang I missed it!

 

[revkev73]

They held us to -15 yards rushing and 199 total yards. They have the better defense by a long shot. They dropped 2 TD passes on offense and had a bunch of stupid penalties. Their offense gifted us a couple touchdowns by putting their defense in terrible situations. We didn't sustain a long drive all day. Yes a win is a win, but lets not go overboard.

Iowa wins vs MSU about 1 out of every 10 they would play. We hit the 1. Tide is turning.

 

[revkev73]

First in obesity though, with Iowa only coming in 9th.

I would pay a few $$$ to see some of those Mississippi gals wearing cow bells!

 

[Fryowa]

I didn’t get to see it before it was removed, is there anyone with a link to it?

 

[ssckelley]

Dang, no need to threaten the guy. I do feel his frustrations, I would have been pissed had Iowa lost. Although I wouldn't have used racist words in my rant.

 

[tweeterhawk]

Dang, no need to threaten the guy. I do feel his frustrations, I would have been pissed had Iowa lost. Although I wouldn't have used racist words in my rant.

Save for death threats (which I don’t believe) the guy is getting what he deserved for his racially tinged put-down of Iowa football and the state in general. When he refers to Iowans as “Opie,” that’s dog-whistle for white racist and “cracka.”

He professes to not be connected with MSU. But someone had to vouch for him in order to get credentialed for the Outback press box. Draw your own conclusions.

 

[HawkGold]

Some of you arent going to like this but calling out Mississippi on number 1 in infant mortality, education, and so on...you do realize what the issue is dont you? And you do know why poverty is an issue there?

 

[lightning1]

His only reference to that situation was an implication that we got away with targeting since the player passed out. Of course, the replays showed nothing but a clean hit, but, never let the facts get in the way of a good opinion...

There was helmet contact on that play. You could see it. I think the refs did miss a targeting call. Incidental contact but that doesn't matter. He'd be the first player in history to pass out from a hit to the torso.

 

[SteveGarvey1]

Opie Taylor was from North Carolina, a state, like Mississippi, from the old Confederacy, and with many more rednecks and hicks than Iowa.

 

[#1DieHardHawk]

There was helmet contact on that play. You could see it. I think the refs did miss a targeting call. Incidental contact but that doesn't matter. He'd be the first player in history to pass out from a hit to the torso.

I think that's highly questionable. Ojemudia was leading with his left shoulder. It is the RB that lowers his level and initiates the helmet contact, and, in fact, the player using the crown of the helmet in this case is the RB.

Here is an excerpt from an article explaining targeting:

Targeting does not solely occur when players initiate helmet-to-helmet contact. It's defined as occurring when a player "takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball." Instances include, but are not limited to:

• Launch--a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area.
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground.
• Leading with helmet, shoulder forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of his helmet.

 

[westender]

What he's trying to say is there were Ferentz'd

"This was like losing a basketball game to Oppie Taylor".

"Losing to Iowa was embarrassing".

LOL. Their OT's had their hands full all game!!

 

[ssckelley]

I think that's highly questionable. Ojemudia was leading with his left shoulder. It is the RB that lowers his level and initiates the helmet contact, and, in fact, the player using the crown of the helmet in this case is the RB.

Here is an excerpt from an article explaining targeting:

Targeting does not solely occur when players initiate helmet-to-helmet contact. It's defined as occurring when a player "takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball." Instances include, but are not limited to:

• Launch--a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area.
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground.
• Leading with helmet, shoulder forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of his helmet.

It does look like he tried to lead with his shoulder but the problem is both players lowered their helmet, which created the contact. The defender has got to keep his head up, Ojemudia is lucky that he didn't get hurt on the play.

 

[lightning1]

I think that's highly questionable. Ojemudia was leading with his left shoulder. It is the RB that lowers his level and initiates the helmet contact, and, in fact, the player using the crown of the helmet in this case is the RB.

Here is an excerpt from an article explaining targeting:

Targeting does not solely occur when players initiate helmet-to-helmet contact. It's defined as occurring when a player "takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball." Instances include, but are not limited to:

• Launch--a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area.
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground.
• Leading with helmet, shoulder forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of his helmet.

I gotcha. I would say it was a clean hit too. The helmet contact was accidental. Although I have seen a lot of accidental contact get called for targeting. It's a subjective rule. Example: Shoulder forearm. What is that, exactly? I know what a shoulder or a forearm is. What is a shoulder forearm? I assume you copied/pasted that term from the rule book? Or did you leave out the and/or?

 

[westender]

Loved it when the MS offensive player called for the face mask. Like what in the heck are you doing?? Egregious and he yanked on it at the very end on the sideline.

 

[lightning1]

Either way, there's absolutely no reason to send that MSU player back in the game. That's ridiculous.

 

[westender]

I think that's highly questionable. Ojemudia was leading with his left shoulder. It is the RB that lowers his level and initiates the helmet contact, and, in fact, the player using the crown of the helmet in this case is the RB.

Here is an excerpt from an article explaining targeting:

Targeting does not solely occur when players initiate helmet-to-helmet contact. It's defined as occurring when a player "takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball." Instances include, but are not limited to:

• Launch--a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area.
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground.
• Leading with helmet, shoulder forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of his helmet.

Looked like taking a charge in basketball. RB lowered and kept going. OJ just standing there waiting.