Tom Dienhart's article

[uihawk82]

Was it a bad call?

Also, the Iowa defense made that play on the Sash INT.

D line got pressure and forced Chappell into a mistake. Thats football.

Sash's INT TD was set up by Fullback Bret Morse hustling his arse off to tackle the guy who intercepted Stanzi. Morse went clear across the field to tackle the guy at the two yard line. That set up the defense to make a play.

I have said many times that play by Morse was huge and instead of being down 35-7 it was 28-14 and the rout was on.

 

[Eda]

Sash's INT TD was set up by Fullback Bret Morse hustling his arse off to tackle the guy who intercepted Stanzi. Morse went clear across the field to tackle the guy at the two yard line. That set up the defense to make a play.

I have said many times that play by Morse was huge and instead of being down 35-7 it was 28-14 and the rout was on.

Impressive memory. Someone give this man 1000 viesels!!

 

[INTIMIDATORHawk]

I don't really follow you. I watched the game on TV and Indiana had Iowa on the ropes big time in the first half. Had those two plays (one a bad call and the other a freak play) gone the other way, Indiana would have been up 35-7 on Iowa.

But they didn't go the other way. Iowa easily won that game. Why are you dealing in hypothetical situations?

 

[1977Hawkeye]

42-24 is not a game that can be changed by 2 plays.

So using your logic means KF gets credit for any close loss or game the Hawks "should have won"?

If thats the case, Iowa should have been about 9-3 last year.

Indiana was up 10, driving, about to go up either 13 or 17 when the pinball play happened, and made it a 3 point game. It completely turned the game around, and Indiana totally forgot how to play defense after that - something like two 70 or 80 yard TD passes on back-to-back possessions after that put the game away. Iowa was dead in the water until that pinball play happened.

 

[Hawknick]

This writer is not any smarter than the refs in the last Iowa MSU bball game. Iowa has won 7 of the last 10 with 2 of the 3 losses coming to the last play. Indianas only convincing win was with their best team of the last decade or more vs an Iowa team that was playing about the worst of any team during the same timeframe. Anyone who thinks Indiana easily beats Iowa any year is simply wrong. Many of those Iowa wins were even on Iowa's worst performance of those years. Come on people use your heads.

 

[doclee]

I am looking desparately for the word "cupcake" in the article...please help me find it. I think I did see the word "slumping." That would typically be taken to mean that this team has been pretty good, they are in a slump and may well come back. So, where cupcake?

 

[seepig]

Yeah even Bill King last week believes that Commander Kurt can pull this thing out of the tailspin it's in. Bill is usually pretty positive in teh sense that he gives coaches the benefit of the doubt but even his un-enthusiasm for the Hawkeye program, based on recruiting primarily, is epic. Unfortunately, like Fry, he may have let some of his coaches hang around for too long.

 

[tm3308]

42-24 is not a game that can be changed by 2 plays.

So using your logic means KF gets credit for any close loss or game the Hawks "should have won"?

If thats the case, Iowa should have been about 9-3 last year.

Did you even watch that game? Sash gets his pick-6 with Indiana knocking on the door (which is, and will forever be the flukiest play I've ever seen). Take that away and it might have made the score 28-7 with about 8 minutes left in the third quarter. Then the touchdown gets taken off the board on the next possession (which would have made the score 35-7).

Indiana had Iowa by the balls that day, and if it weren't for a VERY flukey play and a questionable call, they would have run us out of our own building. Iowa didn't deserve to win that day.

 

[Eda]

Did you even watch that game? Sash gets his pick-6 with Indiana knocking on the door (which is, and will forever be the flukiest play I've ever seen). Take that away and it might have made the score 28-7 with about 8 minutes left in the third quarter. Then the touchdown gets taken off the board on the next possession (which would have made the score 35-7).

Indiana had Iowa by the balls that day, and if it weren't for a VERY flukey play and a questionable call, they would have run us out of our own building. Iowa didn't deserve to win that day.

One could also make a case that Iowa was doing its best to give that game away.
But then we'd be splitting hairs as to how it was all unfolding.

I agree, there was definitely some flukey plays in that game. We were certainly lucky to come away with a win; and a memorable game we'll be able to talk about for years.

 

[Eda]

Wait a sec...

According to this article, Indiana is unlucky they don't have Iowa on the schedule.

However...

In Dienhart's write up about the Hawk's schedule, Iowa is unlucky to not have the Hoosiers on it.

Schedule analysis: Iowa bowl bid? Tough road ahead « Big Ten Network

" Iowa catches no breaks here, missing Illinois and Indiana. "

Soooo... Would it be a win for both teams?

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

First time I have ever seen someone proclaim that a team who lost by 18 points and didnt even cover the spread that day was a team that "almost won" or "should have beaten Iowa".

Comical.

There was nothing comical about that game in Kinnick against Indiana in 2009. NOTHING!! Kinnick was dead until the 4th quarter.. This is a perfect example of how the final score doesn't tell the real story.. Iowa was fortunate to win.

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

2009 was a crazy,crazy year. Iowa could have easily went undefeated and they could have easily lost 4 more games that season as well. Was just a crazy, crazy year.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

2009 was a crazy,crazy year. Iowa could have easily went undefeated and they could have easily lost 4 more games that season as well. Was just a crazy, crazy year.

I still have chills from MSU. 7 gets 6 ! Nuts year for sure.

 

[tm3308]

Wait a sec...

According to this article, Indiana is unlucky they don't have Iowa on the schedule.

However...

In Dienhart's write up about the Hawk's schedule, Iowa is unlucky to not have the Hoosiers on it.

Schedule analysis: Iowa bowl bid? Tough road ahead « Big Ten Network

" Iowa catches no breaks here, missing Illinois and Indiana. "

Soooo... Would it be a win for both teams?

It would be a very winnable matchup for both teams, probably would be among the few such chances for both.

 

[Eda]

It would be a very winnable matchup for both teams, probably would be among the few such chances for both.

I agree TM, especially with the way the Iowa/Indiana games have gone as of late.
The point I was making was more so for the posters who are up in arms about Dienhart's comments about Indiana's schedule; but he had basically the same thing to say about Iowa's schedule. I don't think any of the posters take these articles with a grain of salt or tongue in cheek or any other clichè you'd prefer.

I SMH at some folks.

 

[Section136]

Did you even watch that game? Sash gets his pick-6 with Indiana knocking on the door (which is, and will forever be the flukiest play I've ever seen). Take that away and it might have made the score 28-7 with about 8 minutes left in the third quarter. Then the touchdown gets taken off the board on the next possession (which would have made the score 35-7).

Indiana had Iowa by the balls that day, and if it weren't for a VERY flukey play and a questionable call, they would have run us out of our own building. Iowa didn't deserve to win that day.

I don't remember the exact circumstances of the replay but do remember that it wasn't indisputable one way or the other. That could have gone either way. The Iowa defensive line made the Sash INT happen. It's ludicrous to just consider that play lucky.

Don't you remember the 4 INT's Stanzi threw in the 3rd quarter and 5 overall? Indiana is lucky they didn't get beat by 40 that day.

 

[deanvogs]

I don't remember the exact circumstances of the replay but do remember that it wasn't indisputable one way or the other. That could have gone either way. The Iowa defensive line made the Sash INT happen. It's ludicrous to just consider that play lucky.

Don't you remember the 4 INT's Stanzi threw in the 3rd quarter and 5 overall? Indiana is lucky they didn't get beat by 40 that day.

136 is correct about the 2009 Indiana game. Total yards 480 to 306.

How many games do you win if you throw 5 INT in a game and 4 in one quarter? It isn't like Indiana's TO by the goal line was the only TO of the game. Did it change the momentum? Sure it did, but so did Iowa's 5 Picks. If you can't put away a team when you are on the receiving end of 4 turnovers in the 3rd quarter, when you are already up 21-7 as it is, then you don't "deserve" to win anything.