TheIowaHawkGuy
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Meanwhile, Iowa State down their best player and 3 starters is putting the beat down on Missouri. They just reload through transfers and better recruiting. Their program is where I want Iowa to be someday. Hopefully.
This team is bad...
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Stanzi
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They brought in some good freshmen and transfers neither of which Fran does. However, Missouri is BAD. They have 21 turnovers and 21 fouls and there's still 7 minutes left.
#1DieHardHawk
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I agree but I think it goes further than that. Good leadership is also a personality trait. You want your leaders to be the guys that set examples on and off the court, but they still have to have that innate desire to lead those around them. Cook and Bohannon could work their tails off out there - and that would be a good thing - but they still wouldn't be what you desire in a leader. Not their fault necessarily, but it's just not part of their makeups.
Watched ISU's game tonight for awhile. They played some respectable defense but Missouri looked bad..........25 turnovers with most self inflicted. Missouri's offense looked lost most of the game I viewed.
ArvadaHawk
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ummm....purdon't lost like almost all their team from last season and they're playing a guy who is prematurely bald. believe me, prematurely bald guys aren't good basketball players. and Ball State has "ball" in their name, they must be ballers. sheesh.
Northside Hawk
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You're saying Granville Waiters wasn't a good basketball player?
He actually played in the NBA, albeit around the fringes. When he wasn't getting exhiled to CBA. He was known around basketball circles as Granville Waivers.
When we played intramural and city rec basketball in the glory days of our youth we had a nickname for tall, lanky, uncoordinated players who shouldn't have been out there. We called them Granville's
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ArvadaHawk
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You're saying Granville Waiters wasn't a good basketball player?
He actually played in the NBA, albeit around the fringes. When he wasn't getting exhiled to CBA. He was known around basketball circles as Granville Waivers.
When we played intramural and city rec basketball in the glory days of our youth we had a nickname for tall, lanky, uncoordinated players who shouldn't have been out there. We called them Granville.
omg, northside, thank you! Granville Waiters. wow, that's going way back. and i do remember him very well. ROFL.
skinnykilmer17
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Yes, a 9 lb cyst. Pretty amazing.
I love his hustle and attitude. Not sure Fran will ever know how to properly use him.
You're saying Granville Waiters wasn't a good basketball player?
He actually played in the NBA, albeit around the fringes. When he wasn't getting exhiled to CBA. He was known around basketball circles as Granville Waivers.
When we played intramural and city rec basketball in the glory days of our youth we had a nickname for tall, lanky, uncoordinated players who shouldn't have been out there. We called them Granville's
Hey Granville put in 8 solid seasons for the Bucks.....the man who would not exhaust his eligibility.
Northside Hawk
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For a minute I thought you meant Milwaukee Bucks. I thought huh? That was Paul Mokeski.
Then I quickly figured out what bucks you were talking about.
Robowe
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Before Jess Settles became the player who seemed like he played in the Big 10 forever, it was Granville Waiters (see below). We used to joke about him all of the time.
JG10Hawk
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Before Jess Settles became the player who seemed like he played in the Big 10 forever, it was Granville Waiters (see below). We used to joke about him all of the time.
Who would that be in the conference now? Matt McQuaid? Seems like he's been at Michigan State for a long time.
Robowe
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SteveGarvey1
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Before Jess Settles became the player who seemed like he played in the Big 10 forever, it was Granville Waiters (see below). We used to joke about him all of the time.
Dude looked like he was 48 at the time he played so that might have had something to do with it.
Before Jess Settles became the player who seemed like he played in the Big 10 forever, it was Granville Waiters (see below). We used to joke about him all of the time.
It felt like Scott Skiles was in the league 10 years.
Northside Hawk
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Dupree McBreyer.
Northside Hawk
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Maybe Greg Oden was his kid.
InGoodCo
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Nailed it
meechiganhawk
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ISU is leaning on bringing freshman back into the program with Hoiberg gone. Prohm is a good coach and excellent recruiter.
That said, Missouri is absolutely awful, they are down thier best player and didn't have much around him to begin with.
