ssckelley
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I would love to see him go up against Joakim Noah.
Still wondering if Woody is a future lottery pick?
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I would love to see him go up against Joakim Noah.
RocknRollface
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Anderson Varjio, Marchin Gortat, Brook Lopez, Andrew Bogat, Omer Asik, Joel Anthony, Spencer Hawes, Aaron Gray, Jason Collins, Borris Diaw, Nikola Pekovic, Greg Stiemsma, Ronny Turiaf
Just a small sample of a league full of unimpressive big men.
Will Perdue would be in the nba today.
RocknRollface
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LOL, thats how poor the big man quality has gotten that Joakim Noah is considered good.
PalmettoHawkFan
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miller was in the low post in college. the 3 was something he developed to keep himself in the league.
he has the potential to be overall better than acie. earl could block shots, but that exaggerates how good he was defensively. he wasn't a strong post defender. he was also a black hole when he got the ball. woody has better hands and doesn't suck the life out of the offense when he gets the ball. if he develops into 13ppg scorer, when you add his other skills you have a better overall offensive player than acie.
woody won't be the shot blocker, but he's a better post defender, even with the strength problem, than earl was as a soph.
PalmettoHawkFan
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maybe not so much the decline in quality as the change in the 5 man's role. the game now is all about dribble penetration. robert parish would just clog the lane in today's nba. the 5 guy is mainly a high post roadblock for ball screens who needs to be able to knock down 15+ft jumpers or hit a cutter with the pass.
zeller actually fits that mold pretty well.
sportstalent
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Haseem Thabeet
Kwame Brown
Eddy Curry
Shawn Bradley
Darko Milicic
Ed Pinckney
There are many others if you want me to go on...
Hilarious. It's obvious you are completely clueless and know little about the NBA.
RocknRollface
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I agree on Zeller but the role of the 5 has been allowed to diminish simply because there is no one around who can dominate the paint anymore.
Right now teams can play small ball because they don't have to worry about defending the block.
Put Shaq/Ewing/Morning/Olajawan/Duncan ect in the nba now and every team has to pick up big bodies to defend them and it changes the game back.
Drop Shaq into the nba now with the way the rosters are composed and you may as well not even play the season.
DuffMan
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Go on with what, a list of centers with more upside than woody?
sportstalent
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Yes the NBA has changed, but a lot of the big men from the mid 80's through the mid 90's could play any style of basketball, that is why the game was so good then.
RocknRollface
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LOL, Ok.
Its obvious to me you don't know what your talking about.
You do understand that number includes all of the bench players that you never see right?
clicheusername3
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Just had a triple double the other night of points, rebounds, and BLOCKS.
RocknRollface
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Hes not bad by any means but the fact that hes one of the best right now in the whole league does not say much IMO.
bcl20
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The big man depth in the NBA may/may not be as strong as it used to but the way bigs play in the NBA is vastly different in today's game. It's hard to compare bigs today to the bigs of the past. Plus, when people think big man, they think center. The 4 and 5 are so interchangeable in the game that you must include both with discussing post-players and there are still lots of good players at those positions.
Zeller struggled to score against Woodbury when he didn't get the ball in transition or off of a rebound. He was completely manhandled by Mbakwe the other night, he has absolutely no jumper whatsoever (he shot less than 10 jump shots all of last season). He's a poor rebounder for a guy his size. He will not be able to do anything offensively against any decent NBA big, if you would take him over 70% of the guys in the NBA you are clueless.
DuffMan
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I get that none of those guys are great centers, but I can't say any of them remind me much of Will Perdue either. Of course I'm not familiar with some.
DuffMan
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Yeah I'm with Rock on this. I'm having trouble coming up with 8 better NBA centers right now.
Howard, Vaerjo, Gortat, Asik, Bogut, Chandler, Ibaka, Nene, Kaman....there you go.
You thought Basbabe could go pro after his junior year despite being undersized and having no real offensive game at the time, you're NBA knowledge speaks for itself.
trj
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Change in the 5 man's role or a bunch of dudes who like to play out on the perimeter and play like they are 6'5? A guy who can play with his back to the basket with an array of low post moves are almost non-existent. A true low post defender is even more rare in today's game.
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