This! Altho, both parties themselves would prefer less extreme candidates. But in this day and age of social media, politics (as are sports) are profitable at the extremes where they get all the clicks, either for or against. Straw man arguments rule the day.
Stephen A. Smith Rant - Vote For Trump
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MelroseHawkins
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See, we just think different. The wealthy already pay the majority of the taxes, by a loooong shot. Cuts on corporate tax is an incentive to have corporations, businesses and factories here, which in turn provide nice jobs for the middle class. When you have businesses competing against each other it's great to keep costs down while providing for better quality control of products and services. That in turn makes for a healthier and thriving economy.
I guess we could go the other way and tax the hell even more out of the wealthy and corporations and have them leave, in turn causing less job opportunities for the working class, which would in turn cause more need on socials services, which is now depleted and more stressed. Let's not act like the government doesn't hand out freebies freely. People, citizens and now non-citizens fleece the government of these services. People who are just damned lazy now just get some doctor's excuse or diagnosis to get services. A much smaller % of people really do deserve these social services than what are receiving them. It is absolutely pathetic how this country runs now. The lefties like people to be reliant on government to survive, because that means more votes. There is a reason to suppress citizens, to secure a voting base. It's pathetic.
Glass1/2fullguy
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To summarize there are three categories of people in this country:
- Those who want the government to wipe their ass for them
- Those who want others to rely on the government to wipe their ass
- And finally, those who'd prefer to wipe their own ass.
This has not worked out well for California, Washington, and Illinois as unemployment #s are very high in these states which is both due to the high corporate tax rates as well as the higher than normal minimum wage rates for each state.
I'm not arguing against giving people a living wage, but if you force it on the places directly serving customers like fast food and grocery stores, they end up shutting down as they rely on cheap, young labor to provide affordable "product." Which then compounds the issues you're trying to solve by the higher taxes and minimum wages.
MelroseHawkins
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Exactly. These stupid people out there and in the major cities just assume they can raise minimum pay and the corps will just eat it. They won't. It is amazing how they can't F'ing be forward thinkers and look down the road at the ramifications of their stupid decisions. They always pass the increase down to the consumer causing inflation and as you put it, go out of business. Fast food is even hurting now. My wife and I hit a Wendy's the other day before a show due to timing to get to the show. Two regular chicken sandwich meals came to $24.00. I don't know what it would be on the coasts.
Minimum wage is never going to be raised to meet high pay standards, NEVER. It is always going to be merely a ratio to inflation. They are trying to make minimum wage jobs, living wage jobs for adults. They're just not. Minimum wage jobs have a role. If an individual is stuck working a minimum wage job into their adulthood, that is not a wage problem, that is an individual problem. Something is going on with that individual. Now, there are paths to management of these places so if that is the path I get that but working the counter at McDonald's for 18 years or expecting to, to make a living wage is a red flag, IMO.
In our country’s 248 year history we’ve never had an outgoing President invite followers to the counting of electoral votes ceremony and suggest they go to the Capitol and fight like hell (look what happened) nor have we had a VP, a chief of staff, a head of state, a commander of our military, security advisor, press secretary, WH press relations secretary, even his own niece all go on record stating a former president who they’ve all worked with in official duties is unfit for the Presidency. Never ever. Tells me all I need to know
MelroseHawkins
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..........and yet, he is still better than any other option we have at this moment. Thank you for strengthening our point even more.
Seriously, what are you going to do, vote for a walking corpse that we have now. This is literally the movie Weekend At Bernies. Khrist sake, the guy was mentally not fit to serve as president before, now he is mentally and physically unfit. The guy has end-stage dementia going on for krist sake. He seriously is not there.
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I dont get how people think taxing the rich is the way to cure the government debt. I get its a little hard to comprehend the difference between billions and trillions. But it's an insane number. Best we could do is maybe rob another 50-100 billion a year from the wealthy. That doesn't even put a tiny dent in the spending issues the government has.
It's like if you have a kid who keeps asking for money. At first you bail them out with 100 here and 100 there. Next thing you know they need 1000. Then they're living in a way nicer house than you and driving 100k car while taking 1/3 of everything you make, then still asking for more. At some point you need to cut that kid loose.
And who still believes that Jan 6th was an attempted overthrow of the government? I'm old enough to remember Biden telling us we need F15s to overthrow the government. But then at the same time they say a big group of unarmed people came dangerously close to doing it. And people believe that?
I guess my educated guess would be the democrats since that's the party all the extremely wealthy people want in power. Wouldn't make much sense for all these uber rich people to vote Democrat if they're going to get taxed higher by them. It's impressive that democrats can still pull off the "fair share" line with all the ultra wealthy people on their side, but it still seems to work.
MelroseHawkins
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...and they want "inclusion"............just not in their gated communities.
You vote for your criminal traitor I’ll vote for decency. Free country at least for the moment
You won't find decency in either political party no matter how indignant you feel.
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I wouldn't call showering with your daughter until she starts showering in the middle of the night to avoid you "decency".
justwinbaby
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There’s a lot of evidence to imply that Biden is a criminal traitor. Decency? Like Hawkboys already said good luck finding that from either side. Free country? The current administration is working hard to make that a thing of the past.
MelroseHawkins
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So, you're telling me if Trump got back in or any Republican it wouldn't be a free country. Whatever. We are never more free than we are when having a Republican president and congress. Not even close.
Ok Maga, I get it. You love Donnie. Waste of time to respond here so I will tap out - will be alot easier extol his many virtues without my pesky posts. You'll likely get your criminal back in the WH so soon you can relax and bask in the victory. I won't respond again here, it appears to be all cult here, and that is not an approachable thing.
"Recent administrations with the MOST criminal indictments:
Trump (Republican) — 215
Nixon (Republican) — 76
Reagan (Republican) — 26
1265 charged in Jan 6 Capitol attack. Lost civil case for rape and defamation. Convicted felon for his cover up with porn start. Stolen docs, guilty as everyone knows. Incited riot Jan 6, guilty everyone knows, all on film. Fake electors program from multiple states with those fools that got duped into doing it now facing consequences. Multiple lawyers facing charges or already lost licenses due to association with Trump (Ole Guliani full toast). Trump gave US polling data to Russia, asked Russia to hack a server for him and they did, additional facts. It's not anything I can vote for, ever. The lies Trump told about voting machines that Fox propagated cost them 787 mil with more to come in other court cases. Heck the former Pres even stole from his own charity, is banned from ever having another - fact again. It will be alot worse the second time around there is no doubt. See Project 2025 for a small taste of what is to come. I used to have a level of respect for the Republican party even voted that way but those days are long past. Never saw a candidate like this (and no one else ever has either) in my lifetime (and it's not a short one) and hope to never again.
"Recent administrations with the MOST criminal indictments:
Trump (Republican) — 215
Nixon (Republican) — 76
Reagan (Republican) — 26
1265 charged in Jan 6 Capitol attack. Lost civil case for rape and defamation. Convicted felon for his cover up with porn start. Stolen docs, guilty as everyone knows. Incited riot Jan 6, guilty everyone knows, all on film. Fake electors program from multiple states with those fools that got duped into doing it now facing consequences. Multiple lawyers facing charges or already lost licenses due to association with Trump (Ole Guliani full toast). Trump gave US polling data to Russia, asked Russia to hack a server for him and they did, additional facts. It's not anything I can vote for, ever. The lies Trump told about voting machines that Fox propagated cost them 787 mil with more to come in other court cases. Heck the former Pres even stole from his own charity, is banned from ever having another - fact again. It will be alot worse the second time around there is no doubt. See Project 2025 for a small taste of what is to come. I used to have a level of respect for the Republican party even voted that way but those days are long past. Never saw a candidate like this (and no one else ever has either) in my lifetime (and it's not a short one) and hope to never again.
Sorry, I lied, I meant to include this list below in the parting post. I know it will not matter to you but I cannot help but show it, sorry in advance. All easily verifiable. We have never and never will again see anything like this, ever. It's a one off. List of former staff/
Trump appointees (all lifelong GOP that worked side by side with Trump) that will not support Trump or have said he is unfit for office publicly:
Mike Pence, VP
James Mattis, Secretary of Defense
Mark Esper, Secretary of Defense
Gen Milley, Chairman of Joint Chiefs
Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State
HR McMaster, National Security Advisor
John Kelly, Chief of Staff
Anthony Scaramucci, Communications Director
Elaine Chou, Secretary of Transportation
Secretary of Navy, Richard Spencer
Tom Bossert, Homeland Security Advisor
Ty Cobb, WH Lawyer
Alyssa Griffin, Director of Strategic Communications
Cassidy Hutchinson, Chief of Staff Aid
Trump appointees (all lifelong GOP that worked side by side with Trump) that will not support Trump or have said he is unfit for office publicly:
Mike Pence, VP
James Mattis, Secretary of Defense
Mark Esper, Secretary of Defense
Gen Milley, Chairman of Joint Chiefs
Rex Tillerson, Secretary of State
HR McMaster, National Security Advisor
John Kelly, Chief of Staff
Anthony Scaramucci, Communications Director
Elaine Chou, Secretary of Transportation
Secretary of Navy, Richard Spencer
Tom Bossert, Homeland Security Advisor
Ty Cobb, WH Lawyer
Alyssa Griffin, Director of Strategic Communications
Cassidy Hutchinson, Chief of Staff Aid
So since no other politicians ever get charged with anything, do you think that means they're all sqeeky clean? I think most all of them are corrupt so the fact they only go after one (who happens to not be a career politician) raises more questions than answers for me.
Not everyone thinks one party is corrupt and the other party isn't. People like me think there is corruption on both sides. So going off my last post, if you think Trump is the only crooked politician and that's why he's the only one being charged with crimes, you obviously think your list here is a list of people who won't stand for his corruption. But if you think there are lots of crooked politicians so it's strange they're only going after one, you probably think your list is a list of corrupt Republicans who are afraid the corruption might end if Trump gets in.
You're making a mistake thinking anyone who likes Trump is in a cult. I like Trump (kind of) because of my very pessimistic opinion of how corrupt Washington DC is, and my opinion that an outsider is the only chance to end the corruption. I suppose it's possible I'm wrong and all these politicians aren't corrupt afterall. But don't you think that it's at least possible you're wrong and they are mostly corrupt?
