so not recruiting an actual point guard this year?
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deanvogs
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You are talking about Mike as a Sr. compared to Jordan 7 games into his college career.
Mike didn't have 200 assist as a Fr, he had 89 assists as a Fr., and averaged 2.6 APG. Jordan will easily beat that as he already has 32 assists for 4.6 APG. Mike didn't average 4.0 assist per game until he was a Jr., and I'm thinking Jordan will probably do that or better as a Fr.
I'm not comparing Mike as a senior to Bohannon now, I was just saying what Mike was capable of doing by the time he finished his career. Mike was a lot more efficient as a freshman than Bohannon has been so far but it's early
Knight78
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I also don't think it's a good comparison to use non-conference stats. If you remember, MG's freshman year we had 25 wins but didn't qualify for the NCAA because our non-conference schedule was too soft. Soft teams would typically mean a better PER for each player.
Let's wait and see what the PER is for JB at the end of his freshman year and compare only the conference games. That will give us a better comparison.
Were you saying all this about Mike last year or are you just talking him up now as a way of ripping on current players? You saying Mike could penetrate and dish makes me question if you even watched games.
Mike would drive and kick out to wings all the time. He had over 200 assists last year. I'd love to know how Mike averaged over 8 ppg last year too considering everyone on here saying he couldn't shoot the 3 ball and couldn't create his own offense. Must have been a statistical error
Bohannon might have his limitations...but...he does seem to like to shoot and has a proven record as a shooter...and isn't afraid to shoot...all of this bodes well for covering up some of his limitations...
If teams must respect his shot...lots of other opportunities for him and the team become available.
If teams must respect his shot...lots of other opportunities for him and the team become available.
No he absolutely would not. If he had 200 assists, I bet 150 were to jump shooters coming off screens and 40 were in transition. I doubt I said "good pass" after a Gesell assist 10 times last year. I honestly don't know if I said it 5 times. I said it twice last night for JB. Gesell never sucked in the defense and hit an open man and he never made a tough post pass. My use of the word never is almost as literal as you can get.
I disagree
If teams guarded JB like they guarded Mike last year, he would shoot a 3 every single time down the floor. I watched a game last year from 2nd row center court and was shocked how much they sagged off him. Until then, when people talked about it, I thought they were being dramatic because TV doesn't even come close to showing how bad it really was.
I can't imagine what we would look like with JB, Jok, and Uthoff on the floor at the same time. That's not even to say he's the better player of the two. Just that he would make that particular team better.
Our entire offense was Uthoff and Jok shooting jumpers off screens. We had no post game at all. How many times did you yell "throw him the ball" because a post would have perfect position and Mike would just pass it around the 3 pt line ignoring him?
He holds the single season assist record for us. I think he was elite when it came to passing and running the offense.
I think he played a ton of minutes on a fast paced team with 2 really good shooters on it.
deanvogs
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If Jordan can just stay at his current 7.7 PPG and 4.6 APG Jordan would be exceeding Mike's Jr. level production of 7.3 PPG and 4.0 APG. That is pretty good for a Fr. to be able to match the offensive production of a Jr. who had been starting for 2 full years.
He holds the record for most assists in a season. He created a lot of our offense
You're so funny with stats. Him holding the record doesn't necessarily mean he created a lot of offense. I've already posted how he got hid assists. If you don't agree that's fine. But just throwing out a stat over and over like it proves your point is weak.
Pretending like getting over 200 assists in a season is some easy task is weaker. I think he got a lot of his assists penetrating and kicking out to open defenders but for some reason you just refuse to give Mike credit for anything. Remember when you said CW was going to be just as good as Mike was this season? I think you're wrong again
deanvogs
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200 assist are 200 assists. No reason to downplay that, Mike was very good last year. I know you aren't a big "Mike guy", but you should reconsider that. No he was not a good scorers, couldn't create his own shot or drive to the basket effectively.....but Mike understood this as well and played to his strengths, and had a great Sr season.
