Mike's ppg average last year would be third on the team this year behind Jok and Cook
so not recruiting an actual point guard this year?
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Mike's ppg average last year would be third on the team this year behind Jok and Cook
Here's a thought. If we could replace JB with MG or AC, I would bet our record would be the same right now. If we replaced Cook with Woody, our record would probably be the same right now. If we could replace Baer or Uhl or Pemsl with Uthoff, we would have one loss at the most and would be competing for a Big 10 championship.
Also you could flip it and put JB on last year's team in place of MG or AC. Or put Cook in place of Woody. We would be very similar. But take away Uthoff in place of anyone and we are NIT at best.
People can say we miss Mike or miss Woody (there are parts of their game we do miss). But the difference between last year and this year is not having our All American.
Also you could flip it and put JB on last year's team in place of MG or AC. Or put Cook in place of Woody. We would be very similar. But take away Uthoff in place of anyone and we are NIT at best.
People can say we miss Mike or miss Woody (there are parts of their game we do miss). But the difference between last year and this year is not having our All American.
If we had Mike or Sapp on this team I don't think we lose to Memphis, maybe don't lose Seton Hall either
That's definitely possible. Our interior defense was so bad it would have been tough for either to sway the outcome tho. And if it would have been a close game, we know what would have happened. There were some bad turnovers for easy buckets that might not have happened. That might have helped with momentum.
Our perimeter defense was really bad too
Agreed. But one good perimeter defender out of 3 (with absolutely no help inside) wouldn't have helped much. Some, but not much.
It's not like we got blown out in those games and that's just talking defense. CW and Bohannon combined for 7 points on 3-13 shooting and 6 turnovers against Memphis. They combined for 9 points on 2-8 shooting and 6 turnovers against Seton Hall
ibahawkeye
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JBo is going to be a PG at this level. He has no other choice due to his size. And so what if he's not your traditional PG style.
He doesn't have to create as much with the dribble drive as some other traditional PGs. He creates opportunities for his teammates by not allowing his man or zone defenses to sag off him. Nobody guarded Mike Gesell last year. The opposing defender sagged to about the free throw line just daring him to shoot the outside 3 which really limits the driving lanes. Opposing defenders won't be able to do that with Jordan.
He doesn't have to create as much with the dribble drive as some other traditional PGs. He creates opportunities for his teammates by not allowing his man or zone defenses to sag off him. Nobody guarded Mike Gesell last year. The opposing defender sagged to about the free throw line just daring him to shoot the outside 3 which really limits the driving lanes. Opposing defenders won't be able to do that with Jordan.
deanvogs
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Mike's Stats through his first 7 games against these whooper of teams (UNC Wilmingston, Omaha, MD-E Shore, Abil Christian, Penn, Xavier, UTEP)
24 Assists
37 Points
Jordan through 7 games playing 3 NCAA teams, and 3 cupcakes
32 Assists
54 Points
Mike got to play 6 cupcakes and 1 NCAA team, so one would think he should have been more dominate. Either way my point is Jordan is more than holding his own. My guess is you will continue to spout off that he "isn't a PG" even while he puts up Mike G. Junior year type of numbers at the PG position.
Mike had 25 assists actually but you forgot to add Mike had 4 turnovers through the first 7 games and Jordan has 16
You predicted JB would suck. Maybe you shouldn't throw stones.
And that and defense is why he isn't doing way better than Mike did. With an equal schedule it would even look worse for you.
I'm not even sure if Mike played good defense his first 7 games or not.
His player efficiency statistics do suck.
So you're right?
deanvogs
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I didn't forget to add anything. I post points and assists. There are lots and lots of stats I left out, I only posted two of them.
Listen just admit you were a stupid shit that jumped to conclusions about Jordan before the season. He already looks like he belongs, and should only get better. Sure Mike might have protected the ball through 7 games betters (against ultra weak competition), and is a better defender, but Jordan will score more, create offense for himself and others better.
Just let this one die early and fast 56. The longer you try to hold onto the whole "Bohannon" sucks thing, the more others will think you are a troll, and the harder I will rub this in when it becomes so painfully obvious that even you have to relent on your shit about him.
deanvogs
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I'm beginning to wonder if he is Cytwins......heck even he would admit he is wrong about White and Jok now....
I would say so far I am. Our PG position has been bad offensively and very bad defensively and we're 3-4 right now. Hopefully they both continue to improve and I end up wrong but Bohannon has a 9.1 PER right now which is extremely poor
You even brought up his PER which is 9.1 and you think he looks like he belongs? If anything I think his defense is worse than I expected so far and he's only shooting 29% on the season
