Section136
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I know of about 4 million reasons that say he is.
Should WHOTV 13 have aired the Ferentz video?
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I know of about 4 million reasons that say he is.
kmajhawk
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Jon (or Tork, anyone else who was there), I'm not clear on something: did Ferentz apologize later to the AP reporter for dropping the F-bomb, or did Meredith apologize for asking the question? In the video, Ferentz comes across as condescending to the reporter (the "sitting here every week" comment) and I did not hear an apology. Doesn't really matter, other than I do not think the AP reporter had anything to apologize for and I agree with you that Ferentz could have handled this better.
hawkeyeguy85
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Not trying to be a butthead or anything Jon, but can you elaborate a little more on why you "wouldn't have shared it," in regards to the video, but DID share it in terms of saying things got heated and directing to other tweets "reporting" the f-bomb?
Why would it be OK to share it in this manner, but not the video?
You "reported" it, in text, through your medium, a message board.
Morehouse reported it through twitter and in the newspaper, which is his medium, Gazette item linked here
Hassel reports it in his medium, which is video, but he is wrong, the first two are not?
If Hassel had simply recited was Ferentz said, with no audio and video, would that have been OK?
Just trying to see what the difference is, or should Morehouse not have written the linked item as well, since neither Morehouse nor Hassel were directly involved with the situation.
Why would it be OK to share it in this manner, but not the video?
You "reported" it, in text, through your medium, a message board.
Morehouse reported it through twitter and in the newspaper, which is his medium, Gazette item linked here
Hassel reports it in his medium, which is video, but he is wrong, the first two are not?
If Hassel had simply recited was Ferentz said, with no audio and video, would that have been OK?
Just trying to see what the difference is, or should Morehouse not have written the linked item as well, since neither Morehouse nor Hassel were directly involved with the situation.
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Hawkfromnorwalk
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A tale of two programs. Rhoads is a nice guy, accessible to the media, and also 100 miles closer. In contrast, Kirk is holed up in Fort Kinnick and makes little to no effort to reach out to the media outside of the mandated press conferences, doesn't offer much when he does answer questions, and is in the middle of Eastern Iowa which anybody that lives in Central Iowa knows, they don't even recognize Eastern Iowa exists.
Hawkfromnorwalk
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It's Hawkeye related, that's why it's on here and Morehouse discussed it since he's the hawkeye beat writer for the Gazette. The difference here is that WHOTV made it the second story of the night behind a house fire that killed four people. This is a sports/Hawkeye issue, not a news issue. The media is trying to make a bigger deal out of it than what it is.
clicheusername3
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I would say there would be a 100% probability that if the situation would have been reversed the same thing would have happened. I'm basing this off of the fact that Central Iowa news is so dispicable in their quest for ratings that any type of public F-Bomb is lead story worthy for both channels 8 and 13. They aren't going to let that kind of thing slide no matter who it is.
Sparky
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Does that make sense to you 9YRPLAN? I figured you act like you're intelligent so you should have been able to figure out what I was saying.
hawkdrummer1
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Yep. two factors in play here.
1. the DMRag is down with the "resent success" cuture. And who better to target than KFz.
2. Since they threw away their "The Newspaper that Iowa depends on" image and approach...and went local, they've become clone-lovers.
no. i can clearly see multiple reporters in the room during the video.
hawkeyeguy85
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So it would have been okay to have it in the sportscast, your issue is just with placement within the newscast, not actually reporting on it?
Because, technically, Hassel would be the Iowa beat reporter for WHO.
I do happen to agree with the placement being off.
NeilDiamond
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This is more of the "DM is an ISU town" poppycock. I was born and rasied in DM and a quick way for the Register to go out of business would be to alienate Hawk fans, who probably make up 65%+ of the market.
I don't know why this myth continues to circulate. Its like that email about Bill Gates fortune.
twinlaker
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That's all these guys do anymore.... they some how have come to believe we care about their snarky opinions during the 6:00 news! Geesh... they all want to be the next Olberman.
kmajhawk
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Had Penn State not occurred, I might be more inclined to see your point. But Jerry Sandusky did happen, and even though that case (so far) seems much more egregious than anything that happened here, Gray occurred against that backdrop. There are legitimate questions that have not been answered about why the guy left employment under a cloud the first time, why he was re-hired, what happened to lead to his recent resignation and whether --and why -- Ferentz (according to a radio report) told his players to stay away from an academic adviser for the athletics department. Likely Ferentz could not answer. But the reporter had every right to ask.
Gray appears to be a still-developing story. Hopefully it does not get worse. But reporters should be probing, asking questions, looking to shed light on something that the university appears to want to be kept in the dark. It's part of the news process.
AHawk1
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Disagree, Rhoads show's his emotions on a regular basis(similar to Fran) and getting reved up is not out of the ordinary for them. I'm glad to see Kirk show some emotion. Most of you have been asking for it. I didn't see the clip, did he finally spit the gum out and start getting after it. This is such a non-event it's only news in Hicksville, Iowa. I love the fire, and I hope it was true he chewed some A$$ at halftime.
AHawk1
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tm3308
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Why is it pertinent to ask Kirk Ferentz if Kirk Ferentz told his player to cut ties with Gray? That's a tough one.
Meredith never suggested Ferentz had ANYTHING to do with the hiring/resigning/rehiring/re-resigning of Gray, or that Ferentz had knowledge of inappropriate behavior.
Meredith wasn't asking WHY Kirk gave the order for his players to cut ties. All he wanted was to confirm that the order was given or prove otherwise.
If Kirk just answers it and says "Yes, I did," and then the follow up is "Why did you do that," he can say "No comment," and that's the end of it.
If he simply says "No, I didn't," that's the end of it.
If he says "I don't think I can comment on that situation," again, that's the end of it.
All Meredith wanted was confirmation one way or the other. Would people prefer that he check the facts and get it from Kirk, or just run with it because KCJJ reported it (and apparently got it wrong)?
twinlaker
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Exactly JD.... I have always had the same problem with CH over this type of thing. Way too much editorializing in his reporting, as well as Murph and Andy. Hard to accept them as objective journalists in any of their programming efforts.
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bighawkeyedaddy
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Be honest Jon, is the reason you wouldn't have shared it because you would put yourself at risk of losing your closeness and ties to the program, and not wanting to upset King Hawkeye?
It amazes me how many people now believe that if the media actually goes and looks for more information on a story, they are "creating the news", instead of just towing the company line and believing whatever is thrown out to them. No wonder nobody takes journalists serious anymore, I am so glad I got out of that as my field of study early enough to get into a nice, respected industry like mortgage underwriting
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Billso
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Well said.
The question was fair, and Ferentz' response was terrible (even allowing for annoyance over 'out there').
The video was fair game to air, and frankly favors Ferentz, as it's not the "blow-up" implied in some articles. To air it in the news A-block, however, along with the overheated commentary, was pure Mayberry R.F.D.
Look at Scorp's Les Miles link to see the right way to handle a tough or awkward question.
