Rudock is Gone

MelroseHawkins said:
Funny, that line keeps coming up yearly. Who the hell does fit that offense? A mix of pro-style formation-wise, and trying to incorporate a no huddle spread along with the option routes. The thing is a train wreck.
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It's funny, I just said the same thing to one of my coworkers.
 
Dont be surprised if Jake has success at UM. He will have much better skill position players around him and of course we've seen what Harbaugh's direction can do for QBs. May be the last nail in the KF coffin?
 
Can see it now. News conference after next year's 1st game with Beathard at the helm and leading Iowa to a resounding win.

Hlas - "Coach, can you comment on CJ's progression and his game today?"

Ferentz - "Yes, but 1st let me comment on Jake Rudock and how well of a transition he's had at Michigan. He looked solid today with 4 touchdown passes and leading Michigan to a big 1st win. Both guys have done a phenomenal job on that front. Both guys are doing a tremendous job. Next question?"
 
I've always been an advocate for starting Beathard over Rudock. The management of qbs last season was undeniably atrocious, and perhaps reason #1 why Ferentz and Davis should be on a very short leash. They were essentially telling flat-out lies to both and making promises that they couldn't keep. It's not at all clear who was calling the shots regarding the starting QB decision during the regular season, and speculation that there was a difference in opinion between Ferentz and Davis seems fairly likely. The only time the press got an honest answer about the QB situation was during the pre-bowl game Davis interview where he said they would be rotating them. For once, this was something that wasn't spin or a flat-out lie. That being said, using the bowl game as an audition for the starting spot seems like an undeniably bone-headed move. Especially considering there were plenty of times where Rudock could have been benched much earlier (see: Minnesota game) to see what Beathard had to offer.
 
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Anyone wish that CJB would have just played all year if we were going to lose Jake anyway? Really though I was hoping Jake would stay as a backup. If CJ gets hurt, Jake was a great backup to have. Now we have to rely on someone who has never played before. That is the worst part about all of this IMO.
 
This is a sad day if true. A portion of our fan base ran off a capable quarterback and an outstanding representative for the program. I predict everybody who was clamoring for CJB last year will miss JR by the end of next season. I wish him nothing but the best (unless it comes at the expense of the Hawkeyes, of course).

As the saying goes, "be careful what you wish for, you just might get it."
 
DJL said:
Anyone wish that CJB would have just played all year if we were going to lose Jake anyway? Really though I was hoping Jake would stay as a backup. If CJ gets hurt, Jake was a great backup to have. Now we have to rely on someone who has never played before. That is the worst part about all of this IMO.
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We can't live in fear. It's difficult for a player to go from a 2 year starter to back-up status, especially with one year left when they still think they can play. He has experience in the BIG, so I don't blame him trying something else. It would be different if he thought he still had a shot to win the job at Iowa, but, I think he has been told Iowa is going a different route. KF realizes he's on a short leash & all the marbles are now on Beathard. Should be interesting to watch.
 
LoyalSon said:
This is a sad day if true. A portion of our fan base ran off a capable quarterback and an outstanding representative for the program. I predict everybody who was clamoring for CJB last year will miss JR by the end of next season. I wish him nothing but the best (unless it comes at the expense of the Hawkeyes, of course).

As the saying goes, "be careful what you wish for, you just might get it."
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LoyalSon said:
This is a sad day if true. A portion of our fan base ran off a capable quarterback and an outstanding representative for the program. I predict everybody who was clamoring for CJB last year will miss JR by the end of next season. I wish him nothing but the best (unless it comes at the expense of the Hawkeyes, of course).

As the saying goes, "be careful what you wish for, you just might get it."
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You think the fans ran off JR?

1. How KF has handled the entire situation with the QBs is more realistically the reason he is leaving.
2. Maybe it has to do with academics. We don't really know why he is leaving do we?
3. Maybe he just thinks the offense or the OC sucks and saw he had a chance to play for a great coach with a real offense.
4. If he is leaving because of things he saw on Twitter, he needs to get thicker skin. Everyone who is in the spotlight is going to hear negative things. Be a man, play better, and don't run away like a little girl.
5. I agree they we will be missing JR if CJB gets hurt.
 
DJL said:
Anyone wish that CJB would have just played all year if we were going to lose Jake anyway? Really though I was hoping Jake would stay as a backup. If CJ gets hurt, Jake was a great backup to have. Now we have to rely on someone who has never played before. That is the worst part about all of this IMO.
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A bit of topic, but correlates with your question and as to why I wanted Cj to play.

Was watching Colin Cowherd yesterday and he had a quick part I really liked. He said how he had calipari on the show the other day and about how the one thing he's not happy about his team is he wants them to turn the ball over more. He said we average like 5 and he wants 15. Wants them to take more chances. Then Colin says Bill Parcells used to yell at Simms. Would say "what are we keeping stats here?" "Take chances, throw the damn ball down the seam!"
This hit home to me cause that's Cj in a nutshell. A kid not afraid to make a mistake. I think the ceiling was so much higher with him at the helm. Hopefully with what we saw with all the going for it on fourth down, is Kirk adapting slowly to a play to a result you created as opposed to the play not to lose one...
 
Wow. Lots of speculation, criticism of KF, reliance on a tweet from a Fox Sports guy; analysis of how well Jake will do at Michigan; discussion of CJ's hair.

Look, I mean no offense, but if Jake leaves Iowa, it is a serious problem for the 2015 Hawkeye football team. Regardless of who would start next fall, since we still have spring practice and Fall camp before the starter is finally named, we could easily find ourselves in need of a backup QB in 2015. My memory is not great, but I certainly recall the value of having a pretty good backup in 2014.

I really don't care about where JR goes if this tweet is indeed accurate; I don't really care about how he does when he gets wherever; I don't really care about whether KF handled this whole situation right in 2014, since that season is over. What I do care about is the damage to the 2015 Hawks.

We have 4 QB's on the squad for Fall, 2015, and besides a good, solid starter, we had better bring along one of them to be the go to guy if something happens to the #1. I certainly wish JR the best and appreciate his hard work and contributions to Iowa football, if indeed he is gone. But that is way down the list on what I will lose sleep about.
 
A check down is a check down whether at Iowa or Michigan. Mich will not have a more talented OL than Iowa did last year. On 3rd and 8, Jake still heard footsteps virtually every time and threw to the RB for a gain of 2. The only difference at Mich will be that RB will not be a walk-on white guy or the Big 10's least talented 2nd string RB. Mich fans will not tolerate the check down and Jake will not see the field.
 
patmyne said:
A bit of topic, but correlates with your question and as to why I wanted Cj to play.

Was watching Colin Cowherd yesterday and he had a quick part I really liked. He said how he had calipari on the show the other day and about how the one thing he's not happy about his team is he wants them to turn the ball over more. He said we average like 5 and he wants 15. Wants them to take more chances. Then Colin says Bill Parcells used to yell at Simms. Would say "what are we keeping stats here?" "Take chances, throw the damn ball down the seam!"
This hit home to me cause that's Cj in a nutshell. A kid not afraid to make a mistake. I think the ceiling was so much higher with him at the helm. Hopefully with what we saw with all the going for it on fourth down, is Kirk adapting slowly to a play to a result you created as opposed to the play not to lose one...
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"you can't lose what you don't put in the middle"....."but you can't win much either"

Mike McDermott--"Rounders"
 
mopkins said:
Everyone who wanted CJB and was so completely sure he is better than Rudock finally got what they wanted. Time to put up or shut up.
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Just shut up, so many of the fervent Rudock supporters have turned last year's QB situation into a day at the race tricks. Great, Rudock is the pony that you put your money on. That doesn't make you special, it also doesn't mean that you have insider knowledge on Rudock's skill set or talent.

There were plenty of games last season (and the 2013 season for that matter) where Rudock performed poorly. Yes, some of his troubles may have been related to the scheme or the talent level of the surrounding cast, and obviously we won't know until after he transfers how much poor performances by skill position players affected his overall game.

I didn't see many (if any) posters suggest that they were "completely sure" that CJB is a better QB than Rudock. The vast majority (including myself) were simply arguing that he should have been given a fair shot (during the regular season, mind you). CBJ is obviously a huge question mark and it's unfortunate that we find ourselves in this position lacking a backup without any game experience.

There seems to be a subset of posters who love to argue about this just to be contrarian and have something to argue about. Ultimately, if our football team was actually good we'd have more important things to discuss rather than continually beating this dead horse.
 
FoolishFellow said:
Just shut up, so many of the fervent Rudock supporters have turned last year's QB situation into a day at the race tricks. Great, Rudock is the pony that you put your money on. That doesn't make you special, it also doesn't mean that you have insider knowledge on Rudock's skill set or talent.

There were plenty of games last season (and the 2013 season for that matter) where Rudock performed poorly. Yes, some of his troubles may have been related to the scheme or the talent level of the surrounding cast, and obviously we won't know until after he transfers how much poor performances by skill position players affected his overall game.

I didn't see many (if any) posters suggest that they were "completely sure" that CJB is a better QB than Rudock. The vast majority (including myself) were simply arguing that he should have been given a fair shot (during the regular season, mind you). CBJ is obviously a huge question mark and it's unfortunate that we find ourselves in this position lacking a backup without any game experience.

There seems to be a subset of posters who love to argue about this just to be contrarian and have something to argue about. Ultimately, if our football team was actually good we'd have more important things to discuss rather than continually beating this dead horse.
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I honestly had zero problem with JR or CJ, but feel that neither played well enough to solidify themselves as the starter or separate themselves as the clear and convincing starter. My complaint is the way things were handled. I agree that CJ may not have been given a fair shot during the regular season, but I also feel that to name CJ the starter for next year in January (conveniently after the CJ put the heat on the staff) wasn't giving Jake a fair shot either.

I think the whole situation was handled poorly by the coaching staff from day 1 and honestly wouldn't blame either QB (not named the starter) for leaving. IMO this is on the staff.
 
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