Rudock is Gone

[theboat]

Everyone knows we dont play aggressive, it would be interesting to see what Jake might do with and offense that gets receivers very open and on the run.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Doesn't look good, better check down.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I somewhat disagree with that in Iowa's case last year. Jake was a decent QB who could be mostly counted on starting a game with scripted plays and packages to do a good job. CJ proved in a few early games to be a great reliever so I just posted 5-6 times CJ should have got more time and had a chance to rev up the offense.

and CJ clearly outplayed Jake in the bowl game with his quicker release, more accurate throws, and running and scrambling ability.

I dunno.... Iowa wasn't playing 2 qbs because they were both great. They were playing 2 off and on because neither was great. If one of them would have emerged and made it a no brainer then it would have played out differently but that didn't happen. It just looked like KF was winging it out there trying to appease them both as opposed to trying to get the best of them or win games.

 

[MoseSchrute]

I like or did not like this quote from a yahoo sports article:

"Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh and Boise State coach Bryan Harsin are both "quarterback guys." Either way, Rudock will be playing in a style of offense that should be more aggressive than the one he played in at Iowa. "

Everyone knows we dont play aggressive, it would be interesting to see what Jake might do with and offense that gets receivers very open and on the run.

It will obviously be a huge indictment of Kirk and Greg if JR goes somewhere else and lights it up. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

 

[SpecialKHawk]

It will obviously be a huge indictment of Kirk and Greg if JR goes somewhere else and lights it up. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

I really do understand this type of thinking. So if Jake lights it up because he is surrounded by better material at all positions all that means is we do not have enough talent which is something we already know. Jake staying would have done nothing for us.

Guess what, Jake might also light it up at Alabama, USC, Ohio St. and Oregon among others. It still means we win 6-7 games with him.

 

[uihawk82]

I dunno.... Iowa wasn't playing 2 qbs because they were both great. They were playing 2 off and on because neither was great. If one of them would have emerged and made it a no brainer then it would have played out differently but that didn't happen. It just looked like KF was winging it out there trying to appease them both as opposed to trying to get the best of them or win games.

^^ I agree with KF winging it with the QBs and a lot of things. I really disagree with him trying to appease them both during the regular season.

Jake got almost all the playing time not counting his injury time in the 2nd half of Pitt and the whole Purdue game. He got 90% of the time if not more.

CJ got blowout duty late against Minny and mop up duty against Illini and NW.

IIRC KF said CJ would play in the Wisky and Nebby games but he never saw the field IIRC. That is not appeasement.

 

[MoseSchrute]

I really do understand this type of thinking. So if Jake lights it up because he is surrounded by better material at all positions all that means is we do not have enough talent which is something we already know. Jake staying would have done nothing for us.Guess what, Jake might also light it up at Alabama, USC, Ohio St. and Oregon among others. It still means we win 6-7 games with him.

A good o-line plus Smith, Powell, Duzey, Hamilton, and Willies should have been good enough to do better than we did. But guys aren't utilized here very well.

 

[SpecialKHawk]

A good o-line plus Smith, Powell, Duzey, Hamilton, and Willies should have been good enough to do better than we did. But guys aren't utilized here very well.

Could not agree more but Jake is a company guy with limitations physically to consistently get the ball down field. We get avg results at best with his approach and tools. We have seen that rodeo twice.

CJ is less accurate but has physical tools Jake did not. He also has the gun slinger mentality. Something I think scares the living daylights out of KF but is desperately needed to inject life in this program. I expect big time plays both good and bad.

If we had a stacked KF team like some of his in the past Jake would have been a good fit but we are not. Even in many of those special seasons though we had a difference maker at QB; Banks, Stanzi, Tate. Is CJ next? I do not know but I want to find out.

 

[INTIMIDATORHawk]

I don't see any downside to JR playing at Michigan. That is, if you have lost all faith in the current Iowa coaching staff.

If he plays well, it confirms what the entire universe already knows....that Iowa is bad at developing QB's, especially since O'Keefe left for the NFL. If another team can get him to perform at a much higher level, it is a huge indictment against the offensive coaches at Iowa.

If he plays poorly, it proves that he is just an average QB. Something that all the CJB supporters (myself included) have been saying all along. It also proves that the Iowa Coaches are incompetent (especially KFer) for supporting him the way they did.

No matter how JR plays at his next school, it will reflect poorly on Kirk Ferentz.

 

[thetrza]

I woulda been great if Jake had a defense to keep the score close like some of the past quarterbacks did.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

^^ I agree with KF winging it with the QBs and a lot of things. I really disagree with him trying to appease them both during the regular season.

Jake got almost all the playing time not counting his injury time in the 2nd half of Pitt and the whole Purdue game. He got 90% of the time if not more.

CJ got blowout duty late against Minny and mop up duty against Illini and NW.

IIRC KF said CJ would play in the Wisky and Nebby games but he never saw the field IIRC. That is not appeasement.

I meant in in the sense that he did throw him a bone now and then. Obviously CJ wanted to play more and Rudock wanted every single snap. If he didn't play CJ at all or even less then he did then he may have been wanting to jump ship and who knows if he even makes the trip to the bowl game. Hard to tell now but that's what I meant by appease.

 

[RedFieldHawk]

Hardly. Two UI degrees and 23 years as a football season ticket holder.

What does it say about the state of the fan base that anyone who supports one of our true student athletes is branded as a Cyclone? I hope some people feel badly for the way they have treated Jake Ruddock. There's no denying the coaches have handled this situation poorly, but it's not all on the coaches, by any stretch.

Uhh....no. The coaches were the only people involved in the decision making, so yes...it is ALL on the coaches.