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ibahawkeye
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Not trying to overreact to their first PTL game but if Garza and Nunge are both competing for minutes and I honestly can't see Kriener not competing for some minutes as well. Baer, Cook, Wagner and Pemsl have already proved they deserve minutes.
Sometimes having fresh guys to throw in and a deep rotation is nice but sometimes it's hard for guys to get into the flow as well playing in short spurts. The playing time for the Bigs this year will be interesting to watch as the season plays out. I could see the rotation starting deeper earlier in the year and narrowed as the season progresses.
I don't see how Baer will be able to play one minute at the 4 this year. It looks like we have 5 guys that will be hard to keep off the floor that can only play the 4 or 5 spot. How do you do a 5 man rotation for 2 spots? And that doesn't even include Wagner or Uhl.
If those bench players get used to a system where they can get in for a short time and give it all they have knowing they will get a rest sooner than later, they will get used to the system. You will probably get more effort on defense this way. Mr. Davis's teams got used to it.
ArvadaHawk
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being able to score points as a hoopster shows basketball talent. being able to play defense shows heart and desire. but that is why I believe you can get valid evaluations from PTL.
NikeHawk21
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Dailey is one guy that I hope gets to see a lot of minutes this year. It would be nice if he and Moss were to start at off guard and small forward. Bohannon is probably going to start at the point with Cook at power forward. Garza and Kriener will probably split time at center.
trj
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Given that Baer is one of the better rebounders on the team there will be times where he will have to play the 4. Matchup and game situations will dictate that.
Baer will be a jack of all trades guy for this team. He has to be. He will bounce from that 3 and 4 spot quite a bit.
While I would agree with you that Baer plays well at the 4, with number of bigs that the Hawks have this year that can only play the 4 or 5, Baers mins will only be at the 3 this season. I think Nunge could be in the same boat where he gets most if not all his minutes at the 3. Garza, Cook, Pemsl, Kriener, and Wagner can all only play 4 or 5 since they can only guard the 4 or 5. I can see very limited situations where we are playing a team that only plays 1 post player and Baer has to play the 4 but since we have fewer guards I don't see that happening much. Defensively I see us playing a lot of zone this year.
ibahawkeye
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No thanks on Dailey as a starter. From everything I've seen from him, he's a role player at best. Maybe he'll back up Baer at the 3 but I expect him to be behind both Moss and Ellingson at the 2 so unless one of them get in foul trouble owner an injury, I don't think Dailey playing a lot of minutes.
trj
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He is Iowa's best rebounder and that's coming off the bench. I went back and looked at the box score of both Purdue games and he was Iowa's leading rebounder in both games. I chose Purdue because they had the big frontcourt.
I realize Nunge/Garza are wildcards in this, but I still stand by that Baer will have to play some 4 based on matchups and game situations.
deanvogs
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I do think Fran will "go small" in some instances and play Baer at the 4, but I just don't see it being that often. That means he would have to have Jordan, Moss, (Ellingson/Dailey/Williams) in the game at the same time to push Baer to the 4 spot. I just don't see how that is good for Iowa to go small when they are much stronger in the front court than they are in the wing positions.
trj
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Right now I see Baer as Pemsl/Cook's backup at the 4. I am not sure what to do with Garza/Nunge just yet without getting a feel of what type of game they have.
Baer was Iowa's best rebounder last year and I am trying to think did he do most of that from the 3 spot or the 4?
mopkins
King Kong
As of right now I don't see many minutes available for Uhl or Wagner. There's just no room for them.
Guard is where Iowa is really thin, so I'd expect Baer to get plenty of minutes outside at the 3 and maybe even the 2 at times. Bohannon is going to get 30 minutes at point, Moss will get 20+ at the 2, Ellingson will get 15 minutes as well. So Daily/Williams will fight for 15ish minutes at most.
Guard is where Iowa is really thin, so I'd expect Baer to get plenty of minutes outside at the 3 and maybe even the 2 at times. Bohannon is going to get 30 minutes at point, Moss will get 20+ at the 2, Ellingson will get 15 minutes as well. So Daily/Williams will fight for 15ish minutes at most.
InGoodCo
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Wagner is going to play a significant roll during his next 2 years. He's never going to be an offensive juggernaut but he's not a complete liability either. He will definitely get minutes. Uhl, well, I hope his minutes come back, but he's got a place too. I will be interested to see how Fran manages it all.
I don't think Dailey will even play this year.
MelroseHawkins
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With Baer, one has to look at his overall game and the battery he plays with. He's just one of those guys who seems to be in on every play for in the correct position for a rebound or ball deflection. He's a busy body.
Yea, I have no idea how the minutes will be spread out in the "normal" rotation. I'm sure might change game-by-game if someone gets hot a particular game. I could see some like Baer, Williams, Uhl get 12 minutes one night and maybe 3 another. Could be one of those years.
MelroseHawkins
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Correct, Baer will see a ball and hustle to it beating anybody else. Baer is the perfect 6-7 player on a team. Great overall game, hustles, block a shot and can pop the 3 on occasion.
