OT: Kittle PI in the Super Bowl

pythagoras said:
Uhhh Joe retired years ago and never played for the 9ers. It's Kyle Juszczyk who has the highest paid FB contract in history at 21 million.
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Good, now he can afford to buy some vowels for his last name. :)

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pythagoras said:
You just compared a FB to a TE. We're talking TEs here. Kittle didn't have that great of a game, get over it.
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You are showing your ignorance. He is a FB/TE/HB. Kittle lined up at FB last night as well.

Use a better argument as to why Kelce is better than Kittle then TDs scored in a superbowl.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Career TDs. Career receiving yards. Fantasy football championships won. Career earnings. Career receptions. Super Bowl rings. /thread
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Wow I didnt know Kelce has played the same number of games as Kittle. Let' start talking apples and apples. I dont know what their stats are in all those metrics per game but I do know that KC is a much more pass heavy team than SF.

Thing is they are both great and this is a stupid argument.
 
uihawk82 said:
Ok all you people who said Rudolph of the Vikings didnt push off a few weeks ago against the Saints in a playoff game. It now appears he did if Kittle just got called for pushing off.

How can they call Kittle for extending his arm, just one arm with a slight hold off or push, yet not call the same thing on Rudolph. And dont give me that old argument that the dback was fouling Rudolph because that wasnt called.

Call the games the same. I see guys all year give a little hold off stiff arm like Kittle just did and it is not called. Call the games close to the same all year long.
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BS call. 90% of the time that is NOT called. Part of the hand fighting that seems to happen on every pass
 
Motigerhawk said:
You are showing your ignorance. He is a FB/TE/HB. Kittle lined up at FB last night as well.

Use a better argument as to why Kelce is better than Kittle then TDs scored in a superbowl.
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Just because someone lines up in a position a few times does not make said person that position. Just because a WR throws a pass does not make him a QB......

He's a fullback and you're wrong if you think otherwise.
 
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I'll bet there aren't ten people on this board who know that Ronnie and Kevin Harmon had an older brother Derrick who went to Harvard and won a super bowl with the Niners in the eighties.

He returned, but not very far, the opening kickoff in Super bowl XIX. He accidentally stepped out of bounds inside his own ten yard line because he lost track of how close he was to the sideline.
 
99topdawg said:
When the Kittle play happened, I called it an an obvious push-off. Then when I saw the replay, I wasn't so sure. He already had separation, so he basically hand-checked him (with a little force). I don't know the rules well enough to know if it was PI or not.
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I rarely if ever criticize officiating, but with offensive PI it seems to me that in a lot of cases officials toss the flag anytime there's separation, almost erring on the side of caution.

That's all fine and dandy, but if you're going to do that then the call needs to be reviewed more often, and you need to remove the burden of the review being "indisputable." PI is almost never indisputable.

They never overturn PI calls because, like basketball, it could usually go either way. They need to let officials have more leeway to correct obviously bad calls without such a high standard of proof. I'm not saying this particular call would be overturned (as much as I hate to say it Kittle had his arm extended in contact with the defender, and he gained separation while he was doing it...that's PI if you go by the letter of the law), but they instituted PI review for a reason and it never gets used.
 
uihawk82 said:
Ok all you people who said Rudolph of the Vikings didnt push off a few weeks ago against the Saints in a playoff game. It now appears he did if Kittle just got called for pushing off.

How can they call Kittle for extending his arm, just one arm with a slight hold off or push, yet not call the same thing on Rudolph. And dont give me that old argument that the dback was fouling Rudolph because that wasnt called.

Call the games the same. I see guys all year give a little hold off stiff arm like Kittle just did and it is not called. Call the games close to the same all year long.
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I seldom watch the Super Bowl and didn't watch this one. I tire of officials making game changing calls on plays that could be called nearly every play, but most often aren't. O-line holding calls, with zero impact on a long gain, yup, our official in the booth says that is holding. Yah it is, same as it was the last 15 plays of the drive. Joke. Did he push off? Yup, watch his arm there, moved a little too far towards the defender. Selective penalties with billions of dollars of bets on the line. No thanks.
 
revkev73 said:
I seldom watch the Super Bowl and didn't watch this one. I tire of officials making game changing calls on plays that could be called nearly every play, but most often aren't. O-line holding calls, with zero impact on a long gain, yup, our official in the booth says that is holding. Yah it is, same as it was the last 15 plays of the drive. Joke. Did he push off? Yup, watch his arm there, moved a little too far towards the defender. Selective penalties with billions of dollars of bets on the line. No thanks.
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Don't think they even called a single offensive holding penalty, even though you could probably have called one every snap.
 
Fryowa said:
I rarely if ever criticize officiating, but with offensive PI it seems to me that in a lot of cases officials toss the flag anytime there's separation, almost erring on the side of caution.
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Yeah, that one can really go either way. The one that pissed me off other than the obvious offside call was the hog tie on Bosa on 3rd and 15 on the long pass to Hill. You never know what happens, but that should have made it 3rd and 25. Totally changed the game.
 
My opinion was it was a good game between two very good teams. However, rather than pointing fingers at the officiating with regards to what was called or what wasn't, IMO had SF not abandoned the run game and their game plan the last 8 minutes its possibly an entirely different outcome.
 
SF reminds me of Iowa. Get conservative with a lead. No real confidence in qb.

It does make sense now that SF drafted Beathard and have kept him.

Would guess JG got a concussion just prior to missing the receiver over the top.
 
kicker22 said:
My opinion was it was a good game between two very good teams. However, rather than pointing fingers at the officiating with regards to what was called or what wasn't, IMO had SF not abandoned the run game and their game plan the last 8 minutes its possibly an entirely different outcome.
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Ah, always a guy that shows up to completely disregard the issue of officiating. Officiating can have a huge outcome in games decided by one or two possessions. One call or one missed call can cause a series of events that give one team or another a distinct and unfair advantage.
I didn't even see people really complaining that they were one sided, it affected both teams in this game - just that it's so incredibly subjective, and that's a huge problem. It's never going away unless there's someway to automate it with AI using sensors and predetermined parameters and rule sets (not likely). As long as there are human officials, there will always be an element of human error and subjectivity.
 
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