**OFFICIAL CUBS REGULAR SEASON THREAD**
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BILLBUCKNER
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Wow, I didn't see that one coming.......
DeputyHawk
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I have a feeling we are gonna be disappointed with who we get for Dempster.
ssckelley
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I think the suspicion will be over soon. Both this new pitcher (Germano) and Casey Coleman are on their way to St Louis, Casey is supposed to start in case Germano does not make it on time in place of Dempster.
That depends on what you're expecting to get. Buster Olney thought the Cubs could get 1 great prospect for Garza and 1 good prospect for Dempster. I take that to mean the Cubs should expect to get a prospect in Keith Law's top 100 (or Baseball America's top 100) for Dempster but don't expect it to be a top 50 player.
Fans will be disappointed because they have an elevated view of Dempster based on his performance this year. Jayson Stark of ESPN is a solid writer, and I'm a big fan of his Friday Rumblings & Grumblings column. Here is a snippet from today's R&G column mentioning other GM's view on Dempster:
So if you believe the Cubs will get Zach Lee from the Dodgers for Dempster, it's not going to happen. Unless Jed has nude pics of Colletti stashed somewhere.
So if you believe the Cubs will get Zach Lee from the Dodgers for Dempster, it's not going to happen. Unless Jed has nude pics of Colletti stashed somewhere.
ssckelley
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Dempster is not an ace but he is a solid middle of the rotation guy who seems to pitch better as he gets older. His control this year has been outstanding and he has not been giving up the long ball. But he is 35 years old and in the final year of his contract so I would think a B+ level prospect along with a fringe prospect would be a fair deal.
Agreed. If the Cubs get Lee, I'd be shocked.
I think one of these two (and another throw in or two) is more likely:
Allen Webster (#61 in Law's top 100) a 22 year old RHP who Law says has a "mid rotation ceiling with a chance for more"
Nate Eovaldi (#79 in Law's top 100) a 22 year old RHP who is already in the Dodgers big league rotation
edit: Baseball America has these two guys ranked in the 90's. For reference, they have Zach Lee rated in the mid 60's. Mid 90's would still be considered B+ prospects.
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1977Hawkeye
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I think that's a pretty fair point. I don't look alot at W/L because that's partly a function of the teams you play on, but here are Dempster's ERA's since he's been a Cub:
3.92
3.13
4.80
4.73
2.96
3.65
3.85
4.80
2.11
Certainly nothing to sneeze at, but he's been pretty up and down, and it's pretty clear that so far THIS year, Dempster has certainly been performing at a level he's never been at. Vegas odds are that he will be a 3.5+ ERA guy going forward. And at age, 35 - who knows how many good years he has left.
There's a lot of season left, and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if his ERA for this year ends up closer to 3.
Hawkeye11en1
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This kids having fun in STL yet? That 8 run inning must feel good without lube.
Doublewide
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Ahem you mean 10 run 7th inning? Bwahahahahahahah
Doublewide
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Sorry Ellen meant 12 run 7th.
woodyk1
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I thought the 10 run inning may have been in honor of Ron Santo going into the HOF tomorrow, but they just gave up 2 more.
Hawkeye11en1
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Doublewide
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Damn I was hoping for a few more runs...
woodyk1
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Injury ... (really) to insult.
Matt Garza leaves start with triceps injury, X-rays negative - CBSSports.com
Matt Garza leaves start with triceps injury, X-rays negative - CBSSports.com
Doublewide
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Didn't catch the first few innings but that is some what of a blow trade wise potentially.
HawkeyeShane
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Cubs were right there, cept for that teeeeny little 12 run hiccup in the 7th...
