Look, bhalbur, I have no problem with this site refusing service to anyone that they deem is only there to instigate and not add to the conversation. My problem is, with no parameters set, mods have carte blanche to throw the ban hammer at anyone for any reason. I fear it will devolve in to banning someone with a differing opinion.
I will ask my question again. Why not be heavy handed on trolling on the free site the way you will on the paid site?Yeah, like we do every day on this forum...or....no.
We have a track record of tolerance. If you're uncomfortable with what has been said on the topic, then HN Extra is not for you. That's cool. But you're a 1000 or so words into your opinion on the matter...I get it, you're skeptical. Seems like something that isn't for you.
So you're not going to be able to monitor the boards the paid site either? Why then did you even mention trolling in the sales pitch?If you think it's easy to monitor message boards and control the crowd, you've not done it before.
My guess is that there will be fewer people, thus easier to monitor, plus, (likely, first) the people signing up, if not explicitly, at least implicitly, agree to not troll, so it's sort of a self-monitored forum. While trolling defies precise definition, it's like pornography - you know it when you see (read) it.I will ask my question again. Why not be heavy handed on trolling on the free site the way you will on the paid site?
What I'm hearing is...
"many of you have expressed concerns about our business model, or lack thereof, regarding internet trolling. With this in mind, we have decided to change our business model to accommodate you but, you're going to have to pay for it."
So you're not going to be able to monitor the boards the paid site either? Why then did you even mention trolling in the sales pitch?
Well you fellas do a fine job but that's what you get the big bucks for. I imagine it can be a very time consuming job. Out sourcing doesn't always work. I remember when 2starstan had security clearance.If you think it's easy to monitor message boards and control the crowd, you've not done it before.
This is a bad analogy because pornography has a precise definition.My guess is that there will be fewer people, thus easier to monitor, plus, (likely, first) the people signing up, if not explicitly, at least implicitly, agree to not troll, so it's sort of a self-monitored forum. While trolling defies precise definition, it's like pornography - you know it when you see (read) it.
This is a bad analogy because pornography has a precise definition.
What I'm saying is, what Jon might see as a sarcastic comment, Rob may see it as trolling.
Calling out players has always been an understood no no on this site. I understand that perfectly and would like to know what the other no nos the mods are looking for before I plop down any money.
That's all from me today, I'll hang up and listen.
That's all from me today, I'll hang up and listen.
What if you got banned before you even signed up? I kid I kAll I know is I've posted twice about the expiration box not working for me and no one will respond. It's starting to give me a complex. How bad do my posts have to be to not want my money?
Well you didn't have to read it, Dean. Ok, now I'm done.Thank God, I was wondering how much more complaining you could do today.
What if you got banned before you even signed up? I kid I k
Well you didn't have to read it, Dean. Ok, now I'm done.
I will ask my question again. Why not be heavy handed on trolling on the free site the way you will on the paid site?
What I'm hearing is...
"Many of you have expressed concerns about our business model, or lack thereof, regarding internet trolling. With this in mind, we have decided to change our business model to accommodate you but, you're going to have to pay for it."
Wow, can't handle folks with opposing opinions, or what you are calling "trolls"? Sounds like some snowflakey ish right there.
Right...better run and hide on the premium side my friend! This side is for us folks that like debate and banter and don't need to have our opinions about how great KirFer and company are reinforced after every post. Enjoy!I'm thinking HN is no longer a safe place.
I don't feel safe.