Name that Iowa Freshman Point Guard

[deanvogs]

I was always high on Jok. Watched him play a lot in high school

LOL, you do that with all the players. You actually claimed you were high on Moss, before you called him a "clear miss" that you then later claimed you only said he "wouldn't be an All B1G player".

You take all side and then try to claim victory in all cases. So you will have to excuse us if you claimed you could see something in Jok and Marble, but couldn't see it in Moss.

 

[Hawk5656]

LOL, you do that with all the players. You actually claimed you were high on Moss, before you called him a "clear miss" that you then later claimed you only said he "wouldn't be an All B1G player".

You take all side and then try to claim victory in all cases. So you will have to excuse us if you claimed you could see something in Jok and Marble, but couldn't see it in Moss.

You said you'd rather have Bohannon over Moore and you're coming at me on what I say about players? Haha

 

[Hawk5656]

Steph Curry seems to be doing okay.

Yeah he's pretty athletic and can create for himself and for others

 

[trj]

Yeah he's pretty athletic and can create for himself and for others

Great handles? absolutely. He isn't a great athlete especially by NBA standards, his basketball IQ is just off the charts. Golden St. doesn't need or use Curry's ability to get into the lane. They space the floor with ball movement and they have the best shooters on the planet.

 

[deanvogs]

You said you'd rather have Bohannon over Moore and you're coming at me on what I say about players? Haha

Where did I say that? I said I want the kids who want to be Hawks. So if you want to "really" zing me, why not say I want Bohannon over Ball, as Charlie isn't as good of an offensive player as Jordan is and has better handles than Moore (19 less TO).

You pretty much just spew the STARZZZ anyway. You were high on Cook and you said Jordan was gonna suck cause noone wanted him, wasn't heavily recruited......Yet we are supposed to believe that Jok (who was a bigger fallback that Jordon) with no STARZZZZ and no other programs wanting him, you were super high on him? Even though we was sportting then old 12 PER his SO. year?

Lets just say nobody believes your shit. You talk all side, and then try to claim victory......so yeah, you thought Jok sucked, you thought Marble sucked, that is how you role.

 

[Hawk5656]

Where did I say that? I said I want the kids who want to be Hawks. So if you want to "really" zing me, why not say I want Bohannon over Ball, as Charlie isn't as good of an offensive player as Jordan is and has better handles than Moore (19 less TO).

You pretty much just spew the STARZZZ anyway. You were high on Cook and you said Jordan was gonna suck cause noone wanted him, wasn't heavily recruited......Yet we are supposed to believe that Jok (who was a bigger fallback that Jordon) with no STARZZZZ and no other programs wanting him, you were super high on him? Even though we was sportting then old 12 PER his SO. year?

Lets just say nobody believes your shit. You talk all side, and then try to claim victory......so yeah, you thought Jok sucked, you thought Marble sucked, that is how you role.

Who would you rather have if you were given the choice. Moore or Bohannon?

 

[Hawk5656]

Who would you rather have if you were given the choice. Moore or Bohannon?

I have a feeling Dean will never answer this question

 

[deanvogs]

I have a feeling Dean will never answer this question

Did you really just answer your own question?

Dude, your schtick is old. You say everything about every player, so you can try to claim credit for being right later. remember this one?

I am not saying Bohannon can't be good. He's struggling like most freshman do

 

[Knight78]

I'm assuming the list includes, BJ, Oliver, Horner, Bohannon, Gesell, and Lester? (not in order)

When Lester played, freshmen were ineligible for varsity play.

 

[Hawk5656]

Did you really just answer your own question?

Dude, your schtick is old. You say everything about every player, so you can try to claim credit for being right later. remember this one?

Who would you rather have, Moore or Bohannon?

 

[deanvogs]

Who would you rather have, Moore or Bohannon?

I have never seen Charlier Moore play one minute of BB, so all I can do is look at their stats......

Since Jordan has become a Starter he is averaging 15.6 PPG
Charlie Moore is averaging 15.3 PPG as a starter

Jordan has 4.9 APG as a starter
Charlie has 3.3 APG as a starter

Jordan has 2 TO/G as a starter
Charlie has 3.3 TO/G as a starter

Jordan has an offensive rating of 101.6 on Kenpom
Charlie has an offensive rating of 98.0 on Kenpom

I wanted to take this a step further tho, as Kenpom is great for stats. They actually break down a players offensive rating. They break down opponents into Tier A, Tier B, or no ranking. This is a nice little stat that shows the players offensive rating vs better teams. When Charlie plays better competition the Tier A+Tier B teams (6 games vs Tier A+B teams) he has an offensive rating of 79.5. No that isn't a typo, it is actually that putrid when Charlie plays decent teams. He has totally padded his stats vs weak ass competition.

Jordan on the other hand vs Tier A+Tier B competition (played 8 vs Tier A+B teams) he has an offensive rating of 99.2. Couple that with the fact Jordan has an overall higher offensive rating than Charlie, this really becomes a no brainer.

Now granted, as I said, I have never seen Moore play BB, so maybe if I watched him I would think differently. As it is, Kenpom really tells me all I need to know, Jordan looks like a much better offensive player in every way shape and form really. He is VASTLY superior to Charlie vs good competition and since he has been a starter averages more PPG, APG and less TO/G with a higher offensive rating.

To run your troll, you should really be comparing Jordan to someone who is actually outproducing him right now.

 

[theboat]

Who would you rather have, Moore or Bohannon?

Who would you rather have? Spike Albrecht or Bohanon?

Because last year you wanted Spike, who hasn't done in 5 years what Jordan is dong in 1/2.

 

[Hawk5656]

I have never seen Charlier Moore play one minute of BB, so all I can do is look at their stats......

Since Jordan has become a Starter he is averaging 15.6 PPG
Charlie Moore is averaging 15.3 PPG as a starter

Jordan has 4.9 APG as a starter
Charlie has 3.3 APG as a starter

Jordan has 2 TO/G as a starter
Charlie has 3.3 TO/G as a starter

Jordan has an offensive rating of 101.6 on Kenpom
Charlie has an offensive rating of 98.0 on Kenpom

I wanted to take this a step further tho, as Kenpom is great for stats. They actually break down a players offensive rating. They break down opponents into Tier A, Tier B, or no ranking. This is a nice little stat that shows the players offensive rating vs better teams. When Charlie plays better competition the Tier A+Tier B teams (6 games vs Tier A+B teams) he has an offensive rating of 79.5. No that isn't a typo, it is actually that putrid when Charlie plays decent teams. He has totally padded his stats vs weak ass competition.

Jordan on the other hand vs Tier A+Tier B competition (played 8 vs Tier A+B teams) he has an offensive rating of 99.2. Couple that with the fact Jordan has an overall higher offensive rating than Charlie, this really becomes a no brainer.

Now granted, as I said, I have never seen Moore play BB, so maybe if I watched him I would think differently. As it is, Kenpom really tells me all I need to know, Jordan looks like a much better offensive player in every way shape and form really. He is VASTLY superior to Charlie vs good competition and since he has been a starter averages more PPG, APG and less TO/G with a higher offensive rating.

To run your troll, you should really be comparing Jordan to someone who is actually outproducing him right now.

You're such a homer

 

[Hawk5656]

Who would you rather have? Spike Albrecht or Bohanon?

Because last year you wanted Spike, who hasn't done in 5 years what Jordan is dong in 1/2.

He's been hurt

 

[theboat]

He's been hurt

For 5 years?

Look, I get it. You so desperately want to be right that you ignore everything around you. It's weird though. Bohannon won't be an NBA point guard, but your unwillingness to accept that he may be a quality Iowa PG is just odd and reeks of troll..

 

[deanvogs]

You're such a homer

Tell me where anything in the Kenpom stats add up that Moore is better? Less Assists, more TO, less PPG as startes, and an absolutely horrible offensive rating against the teams that really matter.

 

[deanvogs]

He's been hurt

Hey dumbass, the reason he was transferring was because he was hurt the season before, and Michigan and everyone knew he would never be what he was. That was common knowledge, but you still were saying we needed him.

 

[Hawk5656]

For 5 years?

Look, I get it. You so desperately want to be right that you ignore everything around you. It's weird though. Bohannon won't be an NBA point guard, but your unwillingness to accept that he may be a quality Iowa PG is just odd and reeks of troll..

Spike had a higher PER every single season at Michigan than Bohannon has this year.

 

[Hawk5656]

Tell me where anything in the Kenpom stats add up that Moore is better? Less Assists, more TO, less PPG as startes, and an absolutely horrible offensive rating against the teams that really matter.

Assists don't matter and basketball isn't all about offense. I thought you were smarter than that but you are sounding like Tierney or PC here

 

[theboat]

Spike had a higher PER every single season at Michigan than Bohannon has this year.

So let's be clear. You still would rather have Spike than Bohannon?